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Difficult to communicate

Hey all,

I'm new here and decided to give this a go. I'm looking for other people out there who are having similar experiences or have any kind words of wisdom for someone who's feeling very lost and not sure how to proceed.

I don't even really know where to start. I thought typing this out would be much easier than trying to talk to a counsellor about it but it's just as hard for me. I've been dealing with ~something~ for what I think has been about 2-3 years. I'm 20 yrs old. There have been periods in that time where I've been so incredibly happy, and other times I've been completely unhappy.

I went to see a counsellor for the first time about 3 months ago because I decided it was time I actually voiced what I was feeling and I was creating some bad habits which I could see might spiral out of control. I've always had an issue talking about my feelings, showing my emotions and even sharing what I consider to be personal information with those closest to me (e.g. not talking about my family or how I spend my time). I keep a lot of things close to my chest and I've always been that friend people come to who will listen to your problems and make jokes to help people feel better. Counselling was not easy for me. It was an hour and a half session and I was constantly checking the clock, and asking the counsellor if she could "lead" the session because I wasn't sure how to say anything.

Those habits I mentioned were alcohol abuse and a few cases of (I don't know what to call it...) serial dating(?). I was becoming slowly aware that I was using both alcohol and people I didn't really care about to make myself feel something. This involved a lot of lying and pretending which has never been my usual way. Enter lots of guilt and some other family issues which pushed me to finally see a counsellor. We did talk about these things briefly but I didn't say much other than "I think I've been abusing alcohol and using people for sex and I don't want to hurt anyone".

That counselling session was 3 months ago. I've been sober for 23 days. It hasn't been as hard as I thought because it was my own conscious choice to change. I've been treating it as an experiment.

I consider the alcoholism and etc as short term or surface problems, and I'm trying to change them. But I'm more concerned with long term mental health because I know something is going on with me but I really can't figure this out. I know it's probably best to just go to my GP or see a therapist and actually participate in the therapy but it's hard to even think about. I've been so closed off about this and so independent about dealing with it that it's hard to think about talking to someone else and actually going through with whatever treatment/suggestions they give.

I've always been a perfectionist (in work, study and my emotions) and I think this and my inability to communicate/show my emotions is really stopping me from getting the help I think I need. I've even considered telling my parents (who I haven't been close to for the past few years possible because of these issues) but I'd prefer talking to a professional first.

Anyone else have issues seeing a health professional/therapist? Or communicating feelings in general?

Cheers.

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If anyone's interested in a bit of an update:
I've had a pretty terrible day.

I saw my parents today for the first time in many months. A conversation came up with my mum about mental health (she has dealt with depression for some time now, on and off) and she asked me if everything was ok with me. I get this question from her a lot, but it's usually over the phone and I can easily lie and say "yes, everything's good". But there was something about being face to face with her, and with her being so honest about her own health, I didn't want to say NOTHING this time.
I was suprised with what happened next. I told her "well, everyone has their issues" offhandedly, kind of joking like i normally do. And then after a few minutes of silence and her coaxing me to tell her what was wrong, I literally forced a sentence out of my mouth and I felt I could not physically speak. I told her I've been sober for almost a month and I saw this realisation on her face. She said she had no idea anything was wrong and after more silence I hinted the drinking was because of a deeper problem, but that I could not talk about it, i wasn't sure what it was and that she shouldn't be worried, I am working my way up to seeking help.

She offered some advice about seeking help but at some point I couldn't talk about it anymore. She asked if my father should know about this, and that she'd support me whether or not I wanted to say anything to him. I told her I felt I wasn't even ready to tell HER, so I didn't want to talk to my dad about it so soon.

I've never had so much difficulty talking in my life. It was like I couldn't form the words to speak anymore and at one point in the middle of the "I've been sober for about a month" sentence, I covered my own mouth as if to stop myself from talking. It was terrifying. I wasn't ready to say anything to her. Or maybe I just said the wrong thing to start off with.

Now I feel vulnerable, exposed, scared, stressed. I don't like that my mum knows this about me. I've never told her more than superficial problems. No wonder she was so suprised, she thought everything was fine. I must have been convincing for a really long time. If I could I would go back in time right now and not say anything, in fact I would not have visited them at all. That's how I'm feeling about it right now.

My mother and father would never do anything to hurt me or betray my trust, so this fear of them knowing something so personal about me is kind of irrational.

It's been a bad day for me. I just wanted to post this so I'm aware of what's actually going on. I'm not good at communicating my feelings, but I've never experienced THIS before.

As a side note I really want to say I'm so glad I found this site. The community here are helping so many people and seem to be so supportive. I've already received many words of encouragement and some very helpful tips I might not otherwise have realised. I appreciate you all.

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You sound as if you are quite self aware and are clearly trying to sort through your issues.

I hope your trust in your mum can grow from your confidence to her, and how things develop.

I have had a few experiences where things have flown out of mouth ... kind of under "my radar" ... not with family though, but in social mingling situations.

Take care and one step at a time.

regards Apple

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I can't support this idea enough, finding the people who can contribute to your wellbeing is a great thing to have in life. I would like to add that no single person is going to offer you everything. It is about finding a genuinely good mix of people who give you lots of little things that add up to a larger pool of support.

There is no magic wand in life the same as there is no 'one' person who can give you everything single thing you want.

I would recommend starting with trying to find someone who has the skills to help guide you (@vraero) in regards to recognising the benefits and pitfalls of relationships (this includes professional relationships. Relationships are complex and sometimes in can help to have someone who can help you reflect on your experiences and point out the good AND THE BAD! I put that in capitals because some therapists seem intent on only putting out the good in things.

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Can I encourage you to see your vulnerabilities as a strength! It takes courage to allow ourelves to be vulnerable enough to invite others in. The downside of this is that it can also leave us exposed to invalidation and rejection. Many people don't have the skills to be able to respond skillfully when presented with information about a persons experiences that make them feel uncomfortable.

And we know this, so at times we just shut down and remain quiet, this is not a flaw, not a dysfunction (not that you have stated this, however broader social beliefs tend to paint them this way) it is a form of protection. This is where I think your fear of talking is coming from, you are hurting inside and and you don't want any more hurt so you are protecting yourself from further harm. And this is okay!

One of my favourite sayings is shouei shouei (slowly slowly). It is okay to test the waters and see how people respond, reaching out takes skill as much as listening. You are quite skilled at pointing out your experiences and feelings in the right setting (see your posts on this site), however to me it appears that you need practice and guidance with speaking out and talking in other settings, does this sound fair?

Use this site as a starting point perhaps and hopefully you will develop the skills and find the courage to speak out in other settings as well.

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@vraero hey dude you've just taken a big step. That's a huge step really. It might not seem that way right now but I promise you will see it that way. When that happens I hope that you feel proud of yourself.

What you're feeling is totally normal - there isn't anything wrong in the way you feel. You're processing.

What I'm guessing is that you're having a lot of thoughts at the moment. Just realise them as just that, thoughts. They might be true, they might not be but you don't have to do anything with them, unless you want to.

If I may, go do something relaxing, take your mind off things. Tomorrow's a new day you might think differently then - give yourself some space.

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Dear @vraero
Just like @Appleblossom ...we are both community aides to this great place, Sane Forums. That means we are supposed to know what and where you could connect to others with your queries and ..situation.
You write that it's been a bad day for you. You also write these words to us:

but that I could not talk about it, i wasn't sure what it was and that she shouldn't be worried, I am working my way up to seeking help.
She offered some advice about seeking help but at some point I couldn't talk about it anymore. She asked if my father should know about this, and that she'd support me whether or not I wanted to say anything to him. I told her I felt I wasn't even ready to tell HER, so I didn't want to talk to my dad about it so soon.

I'm responding to you that your truth is very brave. I'de also be feeling shaky and feeling bad too if I spoke to my Mum and Dad like you have. We always have this silly idea that our parents should be told by us that everything fine by us but I think they would rather just be told the truth.
Because of your truth, your responces from @mrkotter @1stepup61 @sadgirl@Sky and @Appleblossom and @Doc_Gonzo are emotionally in tune with your writing about yourself.

I've got this....feeling that You are more emotionally okay than you think........ I feel because you already know that recovering is also about your responses to your loved ones and being gentle with the truth and realising that your loved ones are trying to do the right thing.
I chose to get better one day when I was about to go to sleep in 1984 and 9 years later, started seeing a Psychotherapist. After being with my current Psychotherpapist for over 13 years, today......she told me something about my Mother. She met my Mother in a situation where she had to stop a lot of things happening in her professional life because my Mother has the proper degrees in her field and Mum was trying to bully her way into my Psychotherapist's working life. Today she said no matter what she thought of my Mum's professional life; she couldnt have anything to do with my Mother once I told her that she left me when I was ill.
When I was hit by a car over 30 years ago, when I was 15 years old, my Mother hopped on a plane and went to live at another country for twenty years and hardly ever wrote or called me. She sent me a $25 checque for my first wedding and no phone call.


Today, when my Psychotherapist told me that,............. MY memory, MY experience.... I can write so much more of what happened...... I felt like I was the luckiest woman in the world. For 13 years.... my Psychotherapist and I have stuck with each other. I felt so loved, like you may have felt like with your parents.
If you felt like you can tell a loved one the truth, like @Appleblossom writes, gentle, nice and slow. @mrkotter writes about feelings and words and tomorrow is a new day. @1stepup61 and @Doc_Gonzo are so relevant.


I have been asking my youngest son to stop writing in his journal all the feelings about himself that his Dad makes him feel but to only write like he's in the moment. Also; to write out his own support system. Who are the people that he feels he can rely on.

Maybe Head Space

Maybe the Church Pastor

Maybe if he gets a good GP.
( I hate his GP but can't say that but....okay, it's his decision who he sees. )
Who are his friends who he can rely on.

My youngest son is 22 years old and he hasnt done this. He's sinking all his feelings into his new girlfriend ......He also has'nt gone back to Headspace.....as a parent, I just work hard at staying off his case.

but I'm sure he will come and ask again when he's ready to. I'm sure he thinks of me like you feel about your parents. thank you so much for your messages....PP

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Hey @vraero - you said "Now I feel vulnerable, exposed, scared, stressed."

It is always a huge step to tell family about isuees going down, I always found them to be 'supportive' but really have no clue what it is i was going through. I know that feeling of vulnerability, and for me it was a feeling of ;out of controlledness' that someone else who matters to me knows something about me, I used to feel very scared that people would either use it agaisnt me, or right me off as a hypocohondriac or something.

I have had all sorts of therapy - mostly with CBT type psychologists, and have gained alot of 'wisdom' from it and some very useful tools, but in the end my MI tends to run off with the fairies aor dive me into the mud in deep depression, and no amount of CBT helps at those extremes, I just ride it like a kayak rider on the rapids... or try to not make any great big ecisisons when I am unwell.

So glad you are here, and you really seem to be in charge of your own journey, hope you find the answers and help you so deserve.

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Dear @MoonGal

Exactly how I feel. Thanks for writing. Exactly.

When it comes to my immediate family: unlike my two sons : I feel my own parents and brothers have No idea on how to understand me. They measure me that because of my studies or working life. They seem to have no idea how that a woman deals with her/my emotions. I have three brothers, no sisters. About 3 years ago, I discovered I have a half sister in America and a half brother who recently died.

My big brother seems to....get it the most.....but his work means he only has time for his own wife and daughter. When we do talk I do sence his huge compassion and he is always so impressed with how I do my life.

But unfortunately, it's his busy busylife that pulls him away from me. For many years I was isolated from my youngest brother and.........we are only jut starting to talk. It feels like he gets me too......

So many years gone.

PPx

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HI @vraero, I'm so glad you found the Forums and have received all these responses and support. I hope you feel encouraged to keep seeking help and solutions.

@mrkotter mentioned me earlier as someone who might be able to expand a little on the counselling process. I've been on leave and so haven't managed to jump in until now. I think the community have provided lots of those answers in the meantime with some great suggestions. Coming into a session with things written down is always appreciated. It helps to get to the real issues. And the suggestion of Headspace is a really good one. They are a great service that can provide more than the 10 session medicare model.

Do you feel any closer to seeking help again? It's not uncommon to have to try a couple of psychologists before you find one you can trust enough to open up with. That's another benefit of somewhere like Headspace. They have lots of psychs within the team and so it's easier to switch. And yes, it can take more than one session to help someone achieve the insight and motivation for sustained change 🙂

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Hi, @vraero,

I am pretty new here and i have just discovered your story.

I thought my inability to communicate was just a quality that i just had. it is nice to see that it isn't. I have struggled with depression and anxiety for about 8 years (i am 19 now.), and i have never been able to show any emotion. I go about my day like any other person, i don't stay in bed all day (even though i would love to), i don't express my emotions very effectively. for example, when i am depressed, i don't cry or show anyone that i am struggling, until i am alone. I find it so difficult that i can't express it, because i feel like my mental health problems aren't servere enough for help, even though i know that i do need help. recently, i attempted suicide, i died for almost a minute until they got my heart going again, still, i believe that other people need more help than i do.. all because i can't show or communicate my emotions to people effectively.

In addition to what other people have said, writing down your feelings and/or questions about what is going on inside your head is beneficial. it gives you the chance to see what is happening in your head also. By understanding, you can find your way to better health. I saw my mental health case worker- whom i've only just met after the suicide attempt, and she gave me some strategies to express what is going on, which is a mood chart. each day, from morning, noon and night, rate your feelings and the reason why you are feeling this way. when you see your health professional, you are able to show them so they are able to gather a clear idea about what is going on for you.

i hope you are doing okay.

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