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Abandonement and all that followed.

Abandonement and all that followed.

I'm new to this sort of thing online and so I'll probably muck some of this up. Where do I start? At the start I guess but it's pretty much a life of misery with 8 happy months. My earliest memories of my childhood is hating my mother and wondering why the hell my father wanted nothing to do with me and left me with her at all times. The 8 months of happiness are the only time I've ever been anywhere near happy. That happiness was with the only person I've ever loved. She is a beautiful woman who I confided in for the first time in my life as I truly knew I loved her. When I told her that I would probably have times of depression and silence she seemed to understand and said it would be OK because our love would get us through. Even she couldn't handle the way I was at times. I only started to shut her out after we said we loved each other. Most times in the recent past it's me walking away and breaking hearts after women have fallen for me. I just knew it wouldn't last with them and so I walked away. This time I wanted it to work and so I tried but even this lovely, lovely woman, who adored me, couldn't stay around me. I drove her away with silence and moody behaviour even though I was so near total happiness for the first time in 57 1/2 years. How is that possible. What do I need to do to get myself right and then maybe, just maybe, have a chance with her again. She says she still loves me so I cling onto hope. I need to do that. I function during the day but am scared to go to bed as I just can't clear my mind to sleep. In the past, when younger, alcohol was the answer. I won't go down that path again. I still like 2 or 3 beers after work but that's all. Have I rambled on too much? I hope not because believe me there are many more pages to fill that story. That's it for now I guess. I have no idea what to expect now. Anyway here goes..."post"

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All good @Dino14

I know its very frustrating trying to negotiate something new (forums). Definitely room for improvement there. But with perceverence, we get there in the end.

Dinner preps here.

Anytime, just post. Entirely up to you though. Definitely no pressure. Take from the forums what you need. Perhaps in time, you may want to give more back. Actually you have probably already helped other readers. Lots post here, but many more read only.

Catch you another time. Seems you have poss complication of ptsd. We can talk more on that next time if you wish.

Sherry

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hello @Dino14 , how are you going , thinking of you and saying that i am thinking of you

@Former-Member, @BryanaCamp , @BlueBay

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Hello @Shaz51

How am I going? Great yesterday, not so great this morning, but better as the day goes on. So up and down as has become the norm over the last couple of weeks. Not much I can do about that at this point. Just need to get through to my GP appointment and see where I go from there.

Thanks.

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Good morning @Dino14 , nice to hear from you again today.

Really pleased to hear you had a good day yesterday, tempered somewhat by a not so good day today. This MH stuff really is a roller coaster ride! Yes its true that there is not a lot you can do right now, as you await a consult with your GP. But you have made the difficult step of making an appointment, and for many .. thats the hardest part. To acknowledge that a problem exists and that help is needed. Thankfully there is help out there, and one hopes that your GP will assist in putting you on the right path. Can I suggest that you start to keep a few notes prior to your appointment? Make notes of how your MH issues affect you, your life, your work, your personal relationships, etc. And be as honest as you can with your GP about how you feel about all this.

Its a cooler day here today, and we have even had a tiny bit of light drizzly rain, for which I'm thankful. Just enough to wet the deck. I was in town at the gym this morning, and I even had to use my car windscreen wipers for a moment or two. Yay! I have started to make a major effort to get to the gym a couple of times a week. Its hard due to having to fit in between medical appointments and hubbys many needs, and moods. But its important for me to get out occasionally to interact with the general population, as well as exercise being good for our MH of course. I'm a little bit on the thin side, so weight isnt an issue for me. But I think my fitness has suffered over the past 2 years since hubby got so ill and I had to spend what seemed like half a lifetime in hospitals. So I went to a group class today, which was aerobics related, plus some gym work. Later in the week I will do an individual gym workout which was devised for me between my physio and a gym trainer. So if I can stick to that, I will gradually improve my overall fitness and aerobic capacity. And it pleases my psychologist as well. From what you have said, you are a very fit man, both from work and sport. Do you go to a gym at all? I have never been a gym person, but I need the motivation because I cant seem to do it on my own. Do you go for runs or something to maintain good overall fitness?

I was thinking about your mention of the possibility of you having PTSD. I will say that PTSD can be caused by any number of traumatic incidents. And it does not always come to the fore until years later. You may like to mention what happened with your Dad, to your GP when you are discussing your history with MH.

How is Kylie going post her health scare? Do you have plans for Christmas day?

Sherry

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Hey @Former-Member

Yeah I had a good day yesterday. I spoke to Kylie in the morning and she was so sweet and said she misses me. One thing I probably didn't tell you before is that it is a 2 hour drive from mine to hers. She said the distance was definitely a factor in what happenend to our relationship as was the pressures and stresses of her job. She is saying it wasn't just me. So that lifted me yesterday but I guess I thought about it when laying awake last night and realised that if my mental state is not the only reason for our parting, it also means that getting back together is even further away. But I won't give up. I can't.

And yes I had already started taking notes for the GP as 6 years ago I couldn't explain on the day that I went to the GP because I was having a really "up" day after counselling and appeared normal I guess. He told me I was fine and I believed him. Everything was fine too.............until I fell in love with Kylie.

And on the fitness thing, no I don't go to the Gym. Never seen the need. I can't run anymore as I have damged both knees due to so much football through my life. It is something I can live with and running is the only thing that hurts. So walking is my thing and I stretch and do pushups, situps, weight repetitions etc 2 to 3 mornings a week depending on how demanding my work had been in the preceding days. I have no trouble motivating myself to keep fit so don't need the gym but yes, you should go. "If you don't use it you lose it" so keep stretching and strengthening without going too hard. I haven't slowed down too much since I finished footy at 46 but it will start to happen soon.

And I've added my fathers accident to my list for the GP. So thank you for that.

Kylie's health is fine thanks. A bit of dodgy wiring with her heart but nothing too serious thankfully. Cardiologist again soon for her.

Xmas for me, not too sure. Never been a big fan of it. Just see what happens. I'll be going to the local pub Xmas ever as do most of the locals. Kids and all as Santa will be there too. Someone might suggest something then. We'll see.

Have a good day.

Dino.

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Hi @Dino14 I just wanted to quickly drop by and say hello and send you best wishes for a Christmas as good as possible. It would be nice to think that you would be able to spend some time with Kylie, but I guess that is unlikely. I do hope that her dodgy heart is able to be monitored and treated properly. And yes, long distance relationships can be hard to manage, especially when you both work and have stressful and time consuming jobs. But many people do manage, and hopefully you two may be able to as well. But I do concede it makes things more difficult.

Yes I am determined to continue with the fitness thing. I have to be careful though, as I have a serious back injury, which plays up dreadfully if I do the wrong thing. Another reason I am no longer able to play the more energetic sports I used to love so much. My injury is the reason for the physiotherapist involvement in devising a safe gym program. If I do the wrong thing I wind up bedridden and in serious pain for days on end. Its hard, but something I am pretty used to now as its been 20 years since my injury. Learning to manage takes time though, and sometimes you like to test the boundaries. Walking and swimming are two of the best exercises you can do, so I am glad you like walking. Stretching and strengthening are also very important, so I'm glad you do that. Yes very true ... use it or lose it. Playing footy until 46 is great going, I commend you for that. What position did you play? And with your cricket, were you primarily a batsman, bowler or perhaps one of those multi talented all-rounders?

I have to say that I am not a big fan of Christmas either. Without kids around, it all seems a little senseless to me. I have grandkids, the youngest of whom has just turned 7, but both sets live 6 hours drive away, and in opposite directions from where we live. So we rarely see them at Christmas time. I also had young nieces and nephews, my brothers kids, who we used to often spend Christmas with. But tragically their youngest child died in a car accident a few years back. She was only 11 at the time. And now Christmas seems more of a sad occasion than anything else, where you notice the absence of loved ones. My first Christmas since my Mum died 5 months ago too. So this is not a happy Christmas for me at all. Anyway, sorry about my moaning ... that was not my intention at all. Just became a bit melancholy thinking of Christmas I guess. Anyway this year it is just hubby and myself. We will have Christmas lunch with one of our neighbours, who are also on their own. So that will be nice.

I hope you have a nice Christmas feed at your local pub, and that perhaps something is organised to do afterwards. Regardless, I hope you have as good a day as is possible. Wishing you a merry christmas, and sending lots of well wishes to you.

Sherry

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Thank you so much @Former-Member

That's means more than you'll know......or maybe you will.

I am alone with my music at the moment but friends have invited me out this afternoon. I wasn't going to go but I guess I will. My favourite niece has invited me to her place tomorrow so that will be nice too. She is more like a little sister as she's only 11 years younger and Kylie's best friend as well. I'm going to visit Kylie on Sunday as I have some possessions to return to her. Just hope I don't break down and cry. I think she needs to know that I'm doing OK and that the real me is "winning". I will lunch with My Percy today. My Dog by the way. And he won't abandone me although don't tell him that I'm going to abandon him this afternoon. He gets carsick and Kylie runs a vet clinic and for some reason I haven't got any tablets left for him.

I can sympathise with your back problems as Kylie was knocked over by a car when she was a girl and is on constant medication which also is a strain on her of course.

And to answer your sporting questions. At Football I was Mr. Fixit. Played every position and was marvellously adequate at all of them. Stopped the best Full Forwards, went forward and kicked bags of goals at times and just relished the challenge of playing on the best opposition players. Bowling was my go in cricket. Always opened the bowling and they found it difficult to get the ball out of my hand. Prided myself on my fielding and also often made handy runs when required. Never made a 100 though. 84 was my best I think.

I also get the sadness of a loss at Xmas time too. I lost my best mate 33 years ago, 2 days before Xmas and I still think of him every Xmas. Time heals all wounds they say but not totally.

Last night was my night at the pub and I won a $500 bottle shop voucher. That's a lot of happy water. I'll share with friends otherwise temptation might get me and I'll mess with my head.

So don't worry about moaning, it's no problem at all. You have made me a bit happier just by sending that message.

Have a great day.

Dino.

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Awww gee thank you @Dino14 ... that is really kind of you. Your gratitude brought tears ... to think I may have made a difference, is kinda special.

I have been listening to music this morning too ... christmas carols actually. Hubby likes carols, and I do too.

Yes I remember you had a dog called Percy. What breed is he? My girl Holly turns 11 today, its her birthday. My very own little Christmas Holly. Dogs really are the best. I am sorry you are unable to take Percy with you later, due to his car sickness and being out of tablets for him. Luckily my Holly is a good traveller.

I am glad you are visiting your fav niece tomorrow. I expect you'd be her fav uncle too? Oh dear poor Kylie re the tangle with a car when a child. Yes I sympathise with her. My back injury happened 3 years after my trauma (assaulted in my home) and I think that the pain added to my trauma symptoms, as did the inability to no longer play sport or do all my usual things. Chronic pain plays a significant role in our mental health.

You sound like a really top sportsman, someone I very much admire. A natural athlete. I used to be into athletics (100, 200 meters plus long jump were my specialities) which I used to love doing at school. I continued competing afterwards (seniors) until I was about 40yo, which was when I suffered my injury. I also played squash (which I was very good at) and tennis, indoor cricket, basketball, golf, hockey (not great at those, but competitive). In the bush we never had the opportunity to play AFL, which I think I would have loved. Although I am a bit of a shortie (5ft 2in) so likely would not have been much good at it. But I would probably have played 'tall' as the saying goes. In basketball I was, of course, a livewire guard. Sigh ... I miss all that.

I am sorry to hear you lost your best mate some 33 years ago. Yes its true that we never forget, which I guess really ... is as it should be. But we do start to think more about the good times we shared, rather than our own sense of loss, as time moves on. I think there is always that question though of 'what could have been'. I lost my first boyfriend many years ago now, in a car accident. He was 23, I was 20. I still think of him too. Fate is so unfair sometimes.

Hey ... good for you ... winning a $500 voucher is BIG. I'm sure you will get plenty of takers to help you celebrate that win. I hope you and Percy enjoy your quiet lunch today. Are you cooking something a little bit special? And I am so really happy to hear that you will be visiting Kylie on Sunday. Yes I do hope she can see that you are doing okay, and that you are putting things in place to ensure an improvement in your life. The real you will shine, I have no doubt. One step at a time, is all you can do. So far ... so good. And again ... thank you so much for your kind words.

Sherry

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Well @Former-Member

I was doing so well. Now I'm feeling teary too. All good really just joking but also choking up a little.

You can keep your Xmas Carols though. My vast collection is on random play and some songs make me pause and think. All good thoughts though. Who knew? Percy is a Sharpei X. Crossed with Alsation maybe but not sure. Can we send photo's. I haven't figured that out yet. Anyway he's a good looking boy and I think he knows it.

I think I'm everybody's favourite Uncle. I just need to find a way to remember that when the nonsense come crowding my thoughts. No wonder Kylie fell in love with me, I'm Mr. Incredible. She won't be able to stay away when the real me controls my thoughts. OK enough of that rubbish Dean you're buzzing a the moment but it won't last forever. But it will be me in the future I'm sure.

Nothing special for lunch just my favourite although I've substituted Xmas ham for bacon. A big fry up. Spuds, Eggs, Ham, Capsicum, Chilli, Garlic, Mushrooms & Onions. Followed by pavlova with whipped cream. No maybe tonight. The only thing I miss about my ex-wife. She made an incredible pav. Today the waistline can blow out a bit. I'll burn it off soon enough. You can do the same. I call it the Billy Connolly (My favourite comedian) Diet for me after today. Move more and f@#&$#% eat less. Hope that didn't offend you.

I miss playing sport too so I've been in coaching roles around my footy club since I retired. I'm the games record holder and played in more premierships than anyone else so I'm sort of revered there. Something I've always been uncomfortable about but just thinking now....that's probably the same lack of self esteem that comes with what I've got in my head......the same thing that made me feel unworthy of Kylie's love. Good luck with your gym and just do what you can and never push too hard.

I guess I am a natural athlete, I was the only one in my age group that could high jump over their own height in high school. Took a few "speccies" in my time. I'm bragging now but there is a "Legend" photo in our club rooms with me marking. It's just me and 6 opposition players, no team mates in the photo. I tell the new young blokes that I always had to play on 6 because my team mates were so pathetic. I only say it when an old team mate can hear though. So we are kindred sporting spirits by the sound of it although you haven't talked yourself up like I just have. But in my defense I have to learn to like myself don't I? Go you and me! Athletes.

I think the sense of loss is part of my abandonement too. I had my best mate from all through school pass in a motorbike accident when I was 15. The woman that gave birth to me broke the news by telling me that "He deserved it as he was messing around". What a lovely woman! He wasn't messing around. It was an accident and to make it even sadder his older brother was driving the car that collided with him. His father was never the same. Became an alcoholic and it was of course so sad to see all of that. Fate is very unfair.

OK so now I've just had a phone call and it's time to abandon Percy. You distract him around the back and I'll sneak out the front.

Keep up the good work and enjoy the rest of your day. Boxing Day test tomorrow. Michelle, my niece better have the TV on tomorrow.

Bye for now. You're a very good person, like myself. Smile!

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Ha ha .. thanks heaps @Dino14 ... you are a very kind gentleman.

Sharpei .. are they the wrinkly looking dogs? They are quite large in size I think. I'm glad to hear that Percy knows he's a good looking fellow. You asked if we can post pictures. Yes we can. When you are in the posting window, you will notice at the top of the box a series of different functions listed. One of those is a small black and white pic of a camera, with the word 'Photos' along side it. Select that option and it will take you to an area where you can choose a photo file. Then select 'done' when you are loaded up. It will then come back to the usual posting box, and your photo will be there. Any photos have to be moderated (approved), so will not appear immediately.

Please be careful not to post any pictures of yourself, or anything or anyone which might enable another reader to identify you. Bear in mind that this is an anoymous forum. For example, you have used your lady friends name of Kylie, and thats fine because its not an uncommon name. However if it were a very unusual name, it would be better to use a pseudonym. Given you live in a rural community, it may be easier for other people to recognise you. So just keep that in mind in any interactions here on the forums.

I recall I had a favourite uncle when I was in my teens and early 20's. He was my hero, my Dads younger brother. Lived in remote farm, was unmarried .. and was a really good sportsman. He was a top cricketer, even travelled to the City where he played Grade cricket. I think his main claim to fame there was in getting a hat trick. He gave me one of his cricket bats when I was a kid, and I played with that bat with great pride. He was also a very good district tennis player. Tennis was the big sport in the country areas, along with cricket of course. Sadly my uncle George died in his late 50's.

Your big fry up lunch yesterday sounds pretty good to me. We also had pavlova, plus a Christmas Icecream Cake I made for something different. It was nice too ... a layer of chrissy fruit cake, followed by vanila icecream laced with rum, spices, fruit, glace peel and cherries, berrys, nuts, etc. Plus a layer of frozen berries in between another layer of cake and icecream. Then lots of fresh berries on top along with some crushed meringue. Looked good, and tasted good. Yes I will need to work hard to burn off some of that indulgence. No Dean, you did not offend me at all. I am used to a fair bit of similar language, spending a lot of time in a shearing shed. Grew up on a sheep farm, and my husband and I had a fine wool sheep farm until we sold some 10 years ago. I think the increased exercise to burn off the Christmas excesses can wait until tomorrow though, I am intently watching the Boxing Day cricket at present. I expect you will be too, so I wont need to tell you that we are batting and we have lost a very early wicket already.

Yes sport has always been big in my life. When I experienced my trauma, I initially tried to manage the symptoms by spending more time at work, and doing more sport. When I suffered my back injury 3 years later, I lost my ability to play sport or do any exercise at all for over a year. Then it was a very slow road back, even to walk properly. But it meant I no longer had my usual coping mechanism, so it just made everything so much harder.

I am happy that you have remained heavily involved in your sport after retiring from the playing side. Your history is very impressive I have to say. I think its great that we have our sporting hero's, and you are clearly that, for many others coming through your footy club. My sister was a very good highjumper too, and represented at state level. I could jump a bit, but lack of height does not help much. And I never learned the fosbury flop method, just stuck with the old sizzer jump. I represented at state level, but only for 100 meters and long jump. My sporting achievements were in a different place to where we live now, so I suspect my victories are long forgotten. Although I know my name is still front and centre on a number of A grade squash Championship boards in a few places, and I think my name is still alongside a couple of junior 100 meter sprint records. Maybe I will live on, even when I'm gone? I am sorry that your lack of a healthy self esteem does not permit you to accept that you are indeed worthy of Kylie's love. I hope that changes in time. You really do come across as a very genuine and good person.

Oh no .. thats so hard for someone of only 15 ... to lose your best mate, and then for your mother to say such a thing to you. That is terribly harsh and uncaring. And it was doubly tragic that his brother was driving the other car. People dont get over things like that. My brother was driving when his 11yo daughter died in the accident. Not his fault, it was a terrible windy day and a tree branch fell onto his ute knocking him out and causing the car to run off the road. It was a low speed thing, but as fate would have it, the passenger side took out a small sappling tree which shore off a piece of metal from the passenger door frame and killed her instantly. Naturally my brother blames himself. As he says, I was driving, there is nobody else to blame but me. It has devastated the family though. So I really feel for you, plus your best friends brother. I can also understand their father turning to alcohol, which is terribly sad.

By the way, I had Percy stay with me while you were out yesterday. He has been the perfect gentleman, and even got along very well with my little Holly. Did I mention it was Hollys birthday yesterday? She and Percy had a little party while you were gone.

I hope your yesterday was good. I realise you are at your nieces today for Boxing Day. I too hope she has the tele going and has the cricket on. And yeah ... you're right ... we are both good people, and we both deserve happiness. Said with an understanding smile.

Sherry

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