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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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@Appleblossom Hi Appleblossom I was just thinking I havent said good day to you yet so ;Good Day :D'! Hope you are having a spendid day today 🙂 Yes dreams are interesting they do seem to vary, like I have dreams when people have died as if they are coming to say goodbye. They are the ones I remember the most. They are fascinating and exhausting too. When I was psychotic omg the dreams I had back then were such a terrifying ride I remember those too.... don't want to go down that route again.

@Mazaritawhen you were psychotic did you have insane vivid dreams?

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Hello @eth and others here. What a lovely experience for you eth, with your brother and sister and the outing.

Today is a better day for me, am working on different methods of getting some of the stomach problems under control. My pharmacist has located a protein powder concoction that we're hoping will help, so am giving it a go for roughly 2 months. My reactive body means the usual supplements are of no use to me. Same with many meds. It will be an interesting experiement as I'm giving it my best to work toward an wholistic 'betterment' for myself this year. I won't get well, I can only hope for slight improvements in any of the issues, which is better than no improvement or a lessening of wellbeing.

Oh, I was wondering eth, if you ever did find more of your beloved hair treatment product? I hope so.

Your dream story made me think of two things as I read it. The first was the 'think outside of the box' concept which then morphed into wondering if there was a way for someone to enter the box from outside, to reach you to provide assistance. These types of dreams can be troubling, that I do know. Sometimes the troubling dreams have offered me options I would not have thought of if I hadn't had them.

Best wishes for your upcoming conference.

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@Appleblossom, I like your way of reflecting on dreams and relate to it. When rushed it's hard to process so much of what goes on in life, including the dream realm. We experience so much dreaming in life, it has to be there for some reason. I too see it as a luxury to be able to reflect on dreams, but one that is almost necessary to being human, at least for some of us, perhaps extra sensitive in some way. That can be healthy, but difficult when rushed or overwhelmed. I too have been drawn to Jung in my earlier reading.

@Bunniekins, your dreams of people saying goodbye sounds reassuring. To answer your question about psychosis, I still don't really understand what mine was exactly. It wasn't a straight out hallucinatory experience. It was more like a long lasting collection of delusions (probably still am that way in some respects!). But I have had my most psychedelic dreams when given opioids in hospital.

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@Mazarita those opiods sound scary ....

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good afternoon @Appleblossom, @Mazarita, @Bunniekins, @Former-Member, @outlander

thank you @eth

my mr shaz has Bipolar 11

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@Shaz51 Hi Shaz hoping you have had a calming day and that your arthritis and sciatica have left you in peace.

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hello @Bunniekins how are you and your son

worked all day cleaning today , taking some osteo meds and had a epsom soak last night

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@Shaz51 I am feeling a bit better this afternoon (thank god) my son is doing well too (count the blessings when they happen). I used to give my son a epsom bath when he was little it is a great mind relaxant for autistic people one of the many remedies which actually does help. Sounds like an early night is in store for you.

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i think a early night sounds good @Bunniekins

glad to hear you are feeling a bit better my friend xoxo

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@BunniekinsThanks today has been fairly relaxed and good. Sitting on the couch, playing recorder, online, here, gardening, seeing my Gp. We both had matching clothes, all black!

Yes I feel it is part of dreamwork and griefwork to dream about lost loved ones. I think the period when there were too many deaths for me I only had one recurrent violent dream for many years and mostly none came to mind. So realising I was actually dreaming about my sister who died 30 years ago was a good thing though they were too intense for comfort. I guess I could not process her death fully as others kept dying and I had the living to attend to. That is why after initially thinking I was deteriorating due to the intensity of the dreams. Now I feel ... ah .. like I said hello to her from a good space and connected to her within my heart.

A lot of people were discussing dreams and what they meant. I did not have time to have them. Was up at night a lot with children, then became insomniac.

@MazaritaYou asked about my writing.

I did not go to the group, I was too wobbly. I also had the wrong day, it is actually this coming Friday.

Writing is a topic worth talking about, but later ... as it also opens my wounds. I am slowly learning not to punish myself or to retraumatise myself. You were one of the first people who brought that to my attention. When is it healing or when will it keep me stuck ??

I have let posting on the forum be my main writing outlet for a while. Now I also have more support than I ever had in my life. I am walking with that for a while and trying to keep things alright for my son.

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