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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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Hi again, @Bunniekins. Looks like we are both up fairly early despite lack of sleep.

@eth, what you describe from yesterday sounds like depression from brain chemistry to me. I once went to see Patti Smith perform live. It was when I was in a very deep depression. Despite how amazing she was on stage and musically, I felt completely removed emotionally from everything and, like you, tearing up over how unmoved I could be. I think your psychiatrist appointment tomorrow is just in good time.

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I agree @Mazarita. You always seem to know exactly what I mean.

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@Mazarita Yes! so where were we ... I was saying I didnt have alot of sexual encoutners whilst psychotic .... in fact non at all. I was psychotic for must have been over a year ... I dont know how you could have coped for 5 years being psychotic!!!!! You poor thing. I cannot even imagine. Did you have people around to help you or were you on your own? I hope I am ot getting to personal ...

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Hugs and love to you for what you are going through, @eth. Glad to be chatting this morning. It feels like a while since we have had a chance to do that, although I know it's not been that long really. Forum time and real time seem a bit different somehow.

@Bunniekins, it was a psychosis I guess, but I was pretty happily psychotic in a way. I didn't get hospitalised, never have been, have always sought out psychiatrist care myself. At that time I lived with a friend who was very supportive when I broke down and bawled around her. The rest of the time she was implicated in my sexual adventures, as she was one of my lovers. I also had a male primary partner at that time who cared for me to some extent, though we didn't live together. In other ways we fed each other's mental illness. It was pretty chaotic to tell the truth, but somehow I managed to ride it to the end.

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@Mazarita Wow! that is so intense. I wish mine was that intense ... I just shut down emotionally and with other people I couldnt communicate at all besides bizarre behaviour and even now I think my brain is protecting me by shutting alot of it away. I cannot remember alot of what happened during that time.

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@Bunniekins, that's interesting how different our experiences were. Mine was more a mania than a classic psychosis, I guess, though I can see why it is seen as psychotic, the extremity of it, the distorted self perceptions and perceptions of the world. Hugs for what you went through being so withdrawn and unable to communicate except through strange behaviours.

I went extremely extroverted whereas before, and most of my life, I have experienced a huge amount of social anxiety, shyness, great nervousness in real life. I still felt very nervous and agitated a lot of the time, hence not being able to sit still a lot of the time. My moods shifted dramatically but I seemed to thrive on it in some ways. I knew it was out of the ordinary what I was doing, but I've always lived a fringe kind of existence and in some ways I felt special because of it. I too don't remember a fair bit of what happened, too much of a whirlwind.

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Hope you don't mind me joining in on an ongoing discussion @Mazarita @Bunniekins What you describe sounds sooo much like periods of my life too @Mazarita. Flying high and loving it but very emotional at times. I had an anger problem too at times. Pre-diagnosis and absolutely no clue what was happening to me. I only presented to a dr when I was depressed and consequently spent over 20 years being prescribed ad's which in turn triggered manias.

I've never really discussed the hypersexuality with a therapist until just recently. Or anyone else much except a bit here a long time ago.

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@Mazarita I really have to vacuum the house now. I will talk later. Great talking with you again lol 😛

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Memory problems here too @Bunniekins and long periods of isolating myself since diagnosis. (at age 46, nearly 9 years ago).

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Guten Morgen @Bunniekins @Former-Member 😜 🙉 lol
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