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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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An early night sounds good @Shaz51 ❤

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Sleep well @Shaz51 Hope your aches and pains settle down with rest.

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Lavender tea , @Former-Member, have not tried that

I have lemongrass growing int the garden , could have lemongrass tea but i am soo tired i don`t want to go outside to cut any

Hello @outlander, how are you today xx

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thank you @eth , I will be thinking of you tomorrow -- it is tomorrow isn`t it my friend xx

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Yep @Shaz51 case conference re NDIS/AAT appeal tomorrow morning with carer, advocate, lawyers and administrative appeals tribunal rep. Serious stuff. I was really anxious about it but have reached the whatever happens happens stage tonight. If that makes sense.

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Hi @outlander how did you go with the new psychologist today?

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sure does make sense my friend @eth

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Not that great @eth ahe confused the shite out of me and caused me to be distressed from moving so fast and being so confused. Basically left with more questions than answers.

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That's a shame @outlander Hopefully you know you can ask your questions, you have the right to do so. Maybe write your questions down while they are fresh for you. Also your GP might be able to answer some of them. If I can help, talk about those questions on here and tag me. I've seen quite a few psychologists over the years. Does she have a particular type of therapeutic approach, e.g. trauma informed and experienced, DBT, CBT etc?

I'm watching Q&A on ABC and it's about the #MeToo movement. I'm thinking about all the women I've known or know now who've been through SA one way or another. It's very moving.

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@eth i typed this on my thread but will bring it here. This is the first session from today...

asked to describe how and where i sh and also to talk of my suicide attempts, awkward silences and her confusing me isnt helping, traumas ive had ( didnt meantion sa or the family conflicts) and being told that i should live under my mh labels as they do define me but then saying you dont have to. Then she said well you only have 9 sessions and then your on your own unless you were through private health insurance, and also said that she can help me if thats what i want but each session will be basically run by me and what i want to talk about and doesnt really want to talk about the weeks that im not there but only thr few days leading up to and the day of the appt. She also said that because i have a job i cant be doing too badly and that i should do more and enrol is the studies i want to do right now rather than wait. Told her that i babysit as well and she said thats good.
All in 45 min. Time varies between 40-50 minutes.
I told her that i can talk about abit but i need direction and not walk in and say this is what i want to talk about. It pretty much means that every session it wont be about anything in particular but rather one certain topic like panic attacks. But i only have 50 minutes tops to speak and doesn't run in the form of talk about how i feel or my thoughts. Just one topic.

And she does psychotherapy. I know we are pressed for timr only having the 10 sessions now 9 but sheesh.

Heres a few things that has me confused

'Live under the labels (whatever im/your diagnosed with) as they do define you but dont pay attention to the symptoms'
'Doesnt want to know my thoughts any feelings in the time leading up ( so in between sessions) but rather work with how im feeling on the day'
Just say whats on your mind on the day sort of thing. One topic per session. That how i interpreted that one anyway.

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