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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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Hi @SleepyPanda, good to see you in this discussion this morning, thanks for responding.

The trouble with the advice about looking after your health as best you can, is that most of us are doing are utmost to do this, but often fail or simply fall short due to our mental health issues. It's really a vicious cycle sometimes. Will be talking to my psychiatrist in depth about my future with these things though, in a few weeks.

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hi @Mazarita

I understand it is a struggle.

Sometimes it is a few small things that add up, walks, sunlight, fresh air, gardening, enjoyable things, hobbies.

SP

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@SleepyPanda, I'm going for a dip in the ocean and a possible walk on the beach today. In fact, I've been working on these things incrementally, as I can manage, for years now. Thanks for the tips though.

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Hi @SleepyPanda I agree with @Mazarita. I know what you say is true and I do my best but there are other factors for both of us that make a lot of exercises impossible to do. e.g. problems with feet. I have a Morton's neuroma in one foot that means I can't do much weight bearing exercise (and have now developed osteoporosis as a result of years not weight bearing). Also I'm not able to get past the letter box alone which greatly limits my access to swimming which is my ideal form of exercise. I'm not making excuses, these are real obstacles. Then on top of that I have bipolar and spend months at a time with hardly the motivation to just get out of bed and do basic domestics including self-care.

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Hi @eth

Absolutely agree with you. Definitely not excuses. You can only do what you can. Swimming would be ideal.

Maybe more sunlight for vitamin D and fresh air. I hear walking barefoot on grass has some stress reducing benefits.

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Interesting to think about physical obstacles, @eth, @SleepyPanda. For me it's crohns disease, struggling with daily diarrhea and pain, chronic fatigue from this, osteoarthritis, liver degradation, bladder problems, muscular problems in feet and lower legs, menopause and other age-related issues (I'm 55). Plus bipolar 1, mostly on the depressed and seriously demotivated side, with lifelong social and general anxiety. It's not an easy path to travel, though I do my utmost to take care of myself! We are indeed portraits of the complexity of mental illness really.

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Good morning @eth, @Mazarita, @outlander

reading your messages and sending hugs , you think with work my husband and i do we would not put on weight but maybe i am maintaining my weight level

and with mr shaz MI makes it hard too

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For me trying to balance meds mental health and physical health is relaly horredous. In only a 6 months i gained 15kgs and still going up. Thats the reason i am not going to be staying on them. Not only have i gained that it has caused my spine damage to play up ( mild scoliosis and a twisted spine) my foot and knee ( permanant ligament and tendon damage) but also my self confidence is more shocking then ever. I went from a healthy 20yr old to an obese 21yr old so no more. And that is despite working a physical job exercising and hr and a half a day and try to do more when i feel i can and also eating very healthy as well. It even has my dietician stumped as to why the weight is still going up despite all this and the only thing it xan be put down to more id the medications. So im going off them and increasing my others depending on how i handle them ( and one causes liver damage so need to monitor closely) it helped my mental health alot though so am worried about coming off them esp since ive dropped 2 doses and am already feeling it.

@eth @Mazarita @SleepyPanda

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Hey my scotirish sister, @Shaz51.

Weight gain is, from what I've seen on the forum over the past years, the main complaint about many of us on psych medications. I'm sure all the work you and hubby do does keep the weight gain to less than it would otherwise be. It is such a balancing act between physical and mental health sometimes.

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@SleepyPanda My Vit D and Calcium levels have been tested and are unusually fine, but the osteoporosis showed up on a bone density scan. I sit outside a few times a day and do some gardening at least a few times a week. I love walking barefoot on grass but really need to be wearing my orthotics for any more than a few minutes barefoot. Thanks from me too for joining in this discussion.

Hearing you too @Shaz51 @outlander

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