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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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@Mazarita Hehehehehe! Nighty 😄

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@Mazarita@eth@CheerBear Good morning to everyone hope you all have a really nice day full of good moments and kindness 🙂

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Good morning to you too @Bunniekins and to @Mazarita @outlander @Shaz51 @CheerBear @Former-Member. Wishing you all a peaceful day.

I've been following the chat about studying and really relate to what's been said. The last time I tried was in 2012-2013. Manic when I started. I was thinking I could get back into being a massage therapist (did that for 28 years) and wanted to renew my qualifications so I could get registered with the national association. And I was getting good marks until they said that my year's intake had to start all over again due to the course being upgraded. So unfair. Around this time I crashed into depression and realized reality that I couldn't take other people's health into my hands when I have such a job of managing my own. $4500 dollar mistake. I'm on heavier meds these days and feel it's impossible to even take on the most basic of study due to my poor memory and learning capacity.

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@eth That is very interesting what you say. It is like a mirror image of myself regarding study issues except for the $4500.00 (that would hurt alot!). I have to address this with the doc tomorrow as I really want to get back to it but it is nigh impossible when my moods are still all over the place. At least when I am manic it is full on where as at the moment my moods are neither high nor low just nothing. So I can get the basics done like getting my health back and helping my son but as for any higher learning it is like nope sorry girlfriend.

eth sorry your moods affect you like that ... it is hard isnt it. What is the worst of the evils being zonked out or manic ... and somewhere in between where I am at isnt perfect either ...

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Same same @Bunniekins. Currently more 'stable' as in not too high or too low but I still feel completely unmotivated most days, struggle with decision making and learning new tasks, I hear you re 'just nothing'. And my phobias make any independent mobility impossible still (to get to classes when they are available). I only have enough support worker hours to get to essential appointments and occasional exercise like a walk or a swim. The courses I'd like to do - e.g. basic computer skills needed before I can even try to do something like a TAFE class - aren't on the day I have the support worker. All that means I don't even consider trying to study again yet. I recently tried an on-line story writing course, got about half way through and my creativity just dived so I haven't finished the course.

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I really hope your Dr can help you work out a strategy @Bunniekins

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I really hope your Dr can help you work out a strategy @Bunniekins

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Hi @eth, @Bunniekins, just woke up again. Was up most of the night. Still sleepy.

I couldn't even consider doing study again either because of the wonky state of my concentration and cognitive abilities these days, not to mention the problem of trying to get to classes consistently when I sleep so irregularly and have such massive daytime grogginess. It just wouldn't work now, but I used to be an A student.

That really is bad luck about the change to the course you were doing, Eth. It's great that you did the writing you did, even if not complete or continuing for now. Creativity is never really wasted in my view, as it brings improved quality to our lives, both short term and long term, I think.

I too hope your doctor can help you work out a strategy to get back to study, @Bunniekins. I'm sure there is a way. It seems you have a strong motivation to do it.

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Hi @Mazarita Empathising with you too. My computer is lagging really badly so I'm going to give up on it for a while. Hope to catch up some more later in the day Maz and @Bunniekins

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@Mazarita maybe you can have a nana nap a bit later on ... even 10 mins might help ... there is an added bonus of seeing my psychiatrist .... he is Gorgeous! I have a bit of a crush on him lol so not only is he a great psychiratist but he really is nice to look at as well 😄

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