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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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Not a bad day here @eth Busy but the kids were okay so that made it easier. Hope you have had a good day 💜

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Yes it was a good day for me too yesterday @Zoe7 Working on what will be a mixed media artwork .... the top 2/3 of a mandala with an image of a lotus the bottom part. Took a while to make a stencil of it because I have no tracing paper or carbon paper (which would have made it so much less time to do). Enjoying the process. All this art stuff is something I've always felt blocked and big emotions when I try to create something myself. So I've spent a lot of time colouring mandalas with all this extra time at home. I think I must've had bad experiences with at least one art teacher when I was very young and it formed a core belief that I'm just no good at it so why try? So this exercise is a good bridge into painting etc for me. Painted the lotus with gesso this morning to see how that works as a surface for acrylic paint. And used watercolours to do the background yesterday. If I can become more skilled just using the materials then it will be easier to create my own works. Having better tools would be good - there's no limit to how much one can spend on materials.

Today is a busy one with zoom meetings and my psychiatrist appointment on facetime, so I won't get much more done on it today.

Hope it's a good day for you - I think this might be your last week before the holidays. Take care, stay kind xoxo

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I am loving your foray into art @eth It is such a wonderful way to both express ourselves and get lost in the creativity of it all. Yes it can become expensive with all the tools we can purchase but starting small and building them up over time to use can be exciting too.

I hope your meeting went okay today. I have 3 more days until the holidays and cannot wait.

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Maybe I should try this - Screaming obscenities is faster, cheaper & more satisfying than Therapy....

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Hi and good morning to all passing here today.

I can see a lot of tags from people in the last few days. I haven't been here since Tuesday morning so there's a lot happened in the meanwhile. Probably too much for me to catch up with each of you individually sorry. @TAB @Former-Member @Judi9877 @outlander @MDT @Shaz51 @Former-Member @Eve7 @Former-Member @Maggie @Fluttershy1 @Zoe7 @Sans911 @Former-Member thanks for tagging me - I'll read your posts shortly.

Hello also to @Silenus @Mazarita @Adge @Faith-and-Hope @CheerBear @Snowie @Exoplanet @Angels333 @Adge @NatureLover @Molliex @Bunniekins @Appleblossom @WriterMelb @BPDSurvivor @Dadcaringalone @Former-Member @Jacques @Gazza75 @Dothemo @frog @Teej and more - you've been on my mind.

I hope the week hasn't been too much of a roller coaster for any of you and that those struggling at the moment will find peace soon.

I had psychiatrist and psychologist (which I felt really drained and exhausted afterwards) as well as playing a bit when I was up to it with the lotus mandala picture I've now finished. Mixed media, most of which I'm just learning how to do - many layers with drying time in between. Have been out walking with bro a few times. And cooked for the clan last night. And the bl00dy housing department still wants more evidence - this time an Independent Living Skills Assessment.

Bro has asked me how I will know when I've done enough psychology therapy - a big question that I've been thinking about a lot. I can think of areas where I know I've had improvements in the last few years, but it's really hard to get clear about ultimate goals as I can't really see complex and chronic PTSD leaving me completely and also know that managing with bipolar 1 is a life-long thing. Any ideas people have about answers to this question would be welcomed.

The new psychologist (my 2nd app't) seems good and like she'll be a fair fit. She asks questions that go to the core of me. It's very challenging having disclosure about my history and issues with someone new again. Lots of big emotions, possibly made more intense by still having grief about my previous psychologist leaving so suddenly. Talked about the 3 most traumatic events in my life (she asked for 1! and I couldn't reduce it to that) - including the s attempt that I survived when I was having ideation for months beforehand and ended up in a coma for 10 days. She spoke of how even the ideation can create trauma in us - interesting.

I can see the 5 Day Online Event! You Are Not Alone - Crisis Advice for Family, Friends & Carers discussion has a lot in it but haven't felt up to contributing there because my experience is not of being the carer in that situation, and I have trouble finding the right helpful words for carers after the way it went down for me once I was in the acute mental health unit. Big feelings happening around this offline even tho' it was 20 years ago.

So .... take care everyone. Hope to see you all over the next couple of days, when I'm planning to be around more.

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Nice to hear from you either way @eth
As always 🙂

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Thanks for tagging me, @eth !


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I can see the 5 Day Online Event! You Are Not Alone - Crisis Advice for Family, Friends & Carers discussion has a lot in it but haven't felt up to contributing there because my experience is not of being the carer in that situation, and I have trouble finding the right helpful words for carers after the way it went down for me once I was in the acute mental health unit. Big feelings happening around this offline even tho' it was 20 years ago.


I am not strictly a carer either, and lived experience is also welcomed on that thread (I've been posting mine). Even your new psychologist's idea that SI can create trauma is valuable and would be good for that thread. But I hear you that you have trauma around this, from your history... 😞 So no pressure.

I'm sorry that your Public Housing Application requires still more evidence! I remember my application went on seemingly for years...in reality it was months, but it felt endless and I almost gave up many times. Hopefully this will be the very last bit of paperwork you need for it to be submitted.

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Thanks @MDT and @NatureLover for getting it. Hope today is going smoothly for you both. Working my way through all the tags atm, but if you want to chat I'm here.

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