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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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Snap, @Exoplanet, we posted within seconds of each other! So good to see you. I will be back later to read your post. Much love and happiness from me to you.

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Another thing we share @Mazarita

A friend got me the job at an art course in a college. I guess thats how "who you know" ... worked for me. For me it was about ridding myself of sexual repression and needing money too. I had just started uni. It was never easy though and physical, holding, 5, 10, 20 minute poses etc. He is died of multiple schlerosis over in Perth. Recently I met 2 people who knew him and we could all agree he had a good soul and joined the Hare Krishnas.

We jammed a little on Hey Good Looking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjCoKslQOEs

I was actually trapped in a very toxic relationship at the time. Trying to fix people who are damaged comes with a high risk of getting damaged. I was not even conscious that was what was going on.

It was not until after the Royal Commission and I added up many life experiences and realised I had my own many experiences of sexual and physical abuse that my relational style started to make any sense. I am better with my friendships with either sex, without the "dreaded sex" element.

@Mazarita I remember when you would not leave the flat. I am so glad you have more confidence and better clothing now. At that time I was developing a sense of style through mostly opshop. Greatful that finally enough tall people had given their clothes ... as in the beginning there was not much to fit me ... so ended with a lot of hand made stuff ...and jeans and boots or thongs.

There is a level and as clothes are cheaper, almost everyone dresses much smarter.

I went into skechers for 1st time buying shoes for son this month. He thought they were the cheap alternative. Maybe I should look there for sandals. I recently experimented buying girl sandals but they are all so uncomfortable gotta give them away ... It takes so long for me to get that I dont need to suffer them ... because of my looney indoctrinations ...

Apple goes and clears out uncomfortable shoes from wardrobe.

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Good morning all. Hope today is starting peacefully, as it is here.

@Mazarita I want to reply to your query about exes, but it would be a long story that I'm not up to this morning. Long story short : Most of my longer relationships have been abusive one way or another (or several ways at once). So no contact with any of them except my child's father for the child's sake. I also see a clear pattern of loving those that are aloof in some way and I spent a lot of time seeking their approval. And staying longer than I should because there was talk of marriage (one of my light bulb realizations with pdoc last week). J, who I left behind in Darwin was def one of the aloof in some ways, although I did have long periods of just accepting that's the way it was (e.g. his refusal to call what we had a 'relationship' for 12 years). I would still hope for more at times and that's why I eventually left (on top of the need for support from family with my health) My good friends said he was just using me but it was more than that - deep trust and happy companionship. I know I talked about it at length with you and @Appleblossom in the past.

But in more recent years I've reconnected with one from when I was 16 and another from when I was 26 or so. But both are a bit one-track-minded, clearly often thinking about me in a sexual way - which no longer interests me. One of them actually said he'd never leave his wife, but that they are no longer physical and he'd like to have a purely physical relationship with me .... ah, no! But with both of them there is harmless funny banter and good memories. There was another one from when I was 19 that lived in Denmark that I had a good connection with online for about 3 years, but he let me down completely after I bought tickets to go see him in 2012. It took me til quite recently to realise that it was probably pay-back for something I did on his 2nd visit to Oz in 1984! So I have no interest in real life get togethers with online connections - can't trust them, but then I trust rarely at all these days.

So much for a short story! I just didn't want to go into detail about the abuses.

Seeing my psychologist this morning, then lunch out somewhere, chemist, a couple of groceries and hopefully a visit to the museum to see an exhibition of Natural History Illustrations (flora and fauna). All with my support worker.

What are you up to today?

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Good morning,everyone.

@eth, thanks for sharing your experiences with exes. Totally understand you not wanting to talk about the abusive ones. In fact, I really should have added an 'only if you want to, and it feels helpful' to my question about that yesterday. Glad you have some harmless banter and good memories with the ones from earlier on.

Your day sounds productive, hopefully helpful with the psychologist, enjoyable at lunch and the museum. I seem to remember you going to the flora and fauna exhibition there before. Maybe it was something you were hoping to do at that time, but wasn't able to for some reason. Either way, sounds great and hope you do make it there.

Today, for the second time, I've followed your lead and done a couple of things on waking before coming online.

First I did my physio exercises. I have been doing them over the past month, as my physio advised, but only sporadically really, and not as many times a day as she suggested. It's been a pretty crazy month though, so I don't want to be too hard on myself about that. Instead I am trying to get myself into this habit of doing them first thing in the morning before I come online. And then will hopefully be able to do them again once in the afternoon, and once again at night. Then I'll be meeting the exercise goal. The aim is to integrate these exercises into my daily life in an ongoing way, as a way of dealing with my achilles tendinopathy longterm. I'm seeing the physio on Friday again.

The other thing I did before coming online was stack the dishwasher and get it going. Not that big a task, but still something I can not do if I am not planned and deliberate about it.

The rest of the day involves: shower in about an hour, bus to local shopping village, chemist to take blood pressure, get meds, and ask about my mouth soreness in the corner of one side. Then art group, then home, and a visit from a friend and her partner, who I only see occasionally since they moved a fair way away.

The other thing I plan to do today, probably in the evening, is start watching video submissions for the competition I'm judging. I mentioned that some time ago and now is the time to start work on it. There is a modest payment for this work. I would have done it for free, but it's cool to be getting some cash too. I really started work on it last night, by setting up a spreadsheet to keep track of the videos, makers, and my responses to them. So far there have been about 50 video submissions, with the deadline for entries still about four weeks away. There will probably be more than 100 videos to watch by the time entries close. Quite a job really!

Hope you have a great day, dear friend.

@Appleblossom, I too am better in friendships and relationships without 'the dreaded sex', including with C. There is a part of me though that does fairly regularly feel some longing for a sex life aside from with myself! However, I have discovered I have some problems with age-related issues down there that would make sex with a man a painful experience. I'm hoping to talk to my GP about this at the start of next year, after more important health issues have been dealt with and are under good management. Even if I don't have sexual experiences after some possible treatment for that, it would be nice to know I could do it if it was available and I wanted to!

Back to feet again. I buy my Skechers sandals from a company called 'Styletread'. They are on ebay, but also have their own website and online shop (see Google). I have found their service to be great, delivering to my home within a few days of the order. I've done it this way partly because I find it more convenient (aside from op shops, I hate shopping), but also because for some reason there are not many Skechers sandals available in Australia. The sandals may or may not even be in the stores. The ones I bought this year were about $80. Just giving you this info in case it's of use to you.

I like that you and I, and others, have such a long history on the forum in relation to each other. You remembering that time when I barely left the flat, and can see the progress I have made, reassures me in some way. You too seem to have come a long way since we first met, though I know we both still have our serious ups and downs. Even if there are big bumps in the road, I'm hoping it's onwards and upwards overall!

@Exoplanet, great to hear that your absence from the forum was simply not feeling the desire to be here. I appreciate 'no dramas' now so much more than I did when much younger. The heat sounds pretty dire where you are. I know you were expecting this, but it might be a bit early to have days like that, since it's not even officially summer yet. Glad you have an enjoyable computer game to entertain you while minimising movement in the heat. I can see why the game seems to suit you. 20 acres of fenced forest is just marvellous. So happy for you and the dogs that you have that now, and consequently more ease and joy in your lives. Next time you are absent for a while, I won't be concerned. If it goes on too long though, you might still get a nudge from me for a post, partly to check that all is okay, and partly 'cause I just like talking with you! Much love.

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@eth It sounds like a lovely day. I would love to hear about the gallery when you get back.

It is interesting hearing and exchanging stories about sex life. I just could not SPEAK about it until now. Even when I was young and everyone was talking about it, I had a quiet non revealing very private style about it, even tho I also did the life modelling. Normal levels of intimacy all muddled up cos of nudity, abuse, foster home and orphanage crap which was far too much to go into in casual conversations. I was just mildly available, which may have been why I did not make great friendships, and when people complained endlessly, and I had not even started to complain ... and orphanage kids often did not complain ... though I was lucky I did spend my whole childhood in care ..it was also a reason that I accepted people moving on ... well ... we tended to go our separate ways a lot ... no big feelings, just not a real connect.

My neck issues have prevented it on a purely physical level for a long time, and there were a lot of extra considerations including children ... so I opted for simplicity and being single.

@eth I hope it was not triggering talking a little about it. It can help being selective about what is touched on. It has taken me this long to get UNtriggered ...

@Mazarita Thanks for shoe chat. Timing was spot on.

I experimented and bought a few online sandals. Still the science nerd. Experiment done. Going back to sensible shoes ALL the time. Felt I spent too much in restaurants and should buy solid objects .. ha ha ...Then thought I should wear out the shoes I have but some are not worth that effort (ouch) ... I dont need to be a martyr ... OMG ... when I think about how mother diddled me there ... calm down ...its over now . .. breathe ... and I now have a healthy self care model to work with. Life is certainly better.

Have a good night all who pass, especially any new members and

@Exoplanet @Sophia1 @Bunniekins

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evening @Mazarita @eth @Exoplanet (great to hear from you!) @Appleblossom @Sophia1 @PeppiPatty @Faith-and-Hope @Bunniekins and everyone passing through

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@outlander Hi outlander hoping you are doing well hun and all that women's stuff has calmed down a bit for you. Love greenpea xxx

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hi little pea, no not really but have a new plan for that which is to monitor till next yr and then if nothings changed go to a specialist @Bunniekins

how are you going? whats our pea been up to?

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@outlander That sounds good outlander 🙂 Hopefully you will be able to see a specialist sooner rather than later. Oh I am pretty good thanks 🙂 my son2 is going a bit mad here .... he is pacing and scowling lol (hope that is all that comes to it) I really don't wan't any dramas with him tonight as I have made up my mind not to send him back to hospital (just too awful for him and the rest of us).

He is so scary though when he gets angry and it brings everything back (hits me like a avalanche) I cannot cope with it very well.

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hugs @Bunniekins i hope things at home can be managed and doesnt escalate. i know you would be doing the best you can and i hope that he does try to use his coping methods too.
If he gets really angry and feels the need to be more destructive perhaps give him some rolled up socks and allow him to throw them at the floor or the walls or the roof as a release. it wont damage anything
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