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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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@eth

Thanks for yours eth, sounds very familiar! Love your comment “When I was flying high I was loving it.” That captures the essence of this condition perfectly. My son is much better now off those bloody antidepressants and he is now on a slow release mood stabilizer combined with an antipsychotic with mood stabilizing effects. It’s going to take us a long time to resolve some of the financial losses created by the mania. I thank you for your comments as it’s really nice to know others have also gone thru such mania. @greenpea said she wanted to buy an island while she was high, a mate of my son bought a $3000 electric guitar even he can’t play, my son spent over $12,000 on electronics which he didn’t want! Now even though we have a Drs letter JB Hifi is not willing to process refunds!! Boycott JB Hifi! The best I heard was quarter of a million dollars Tesla Electric Car while manic and my son’s specialist said manic stock market traders often make huge millions of dollars buying sprees followed by even larger devastating losses. Thanks for your kind support...

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@Dadcaringalone Hi Dadcaringalone great to hear from you :). You didn't mention how your conference went. I am sure it all went well for you. So happy to hear that your son is doing well now. Is he out of hospital yet? I might go an see that movie it is nice to see one that is positive and happy, not all grizzly and violent. Really happy that you will see your daughter next week. Does that include her boyfriend?

I am off to see my daughter's mental health nurse soon as she wants to discuss things with me regarding my daughter mh. I went for a walk this morning and did some qi gong which was lovely. (might do some more this afternoon).

Have a wonderful day Dadcaringalone and keep truckin 😄

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I hope so @eth had restless sleep woke ok now crap. Detoxing. May cancel dentist again . Thankyou

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Oh the stories I could tell @Dadcaringalone! In 2012 and early 2013 I spent more than $27,000, the last of my inheritance. That's just the first 3 things that came to mind. There was much more than that over about 6 months. I still wonder how different my life could be if I'd use that money wisely. The only thing I have to show for it is a little 2-door hatch car that was the last of the $$ plus a chunk on a credit card that I'm still paying off. These days when I get the urge to make a major purchase (anything over about $60) I make myself wait at least a few days and not act on the impulse.

So managing bipolar has 3 main aspects - medication (psychiatrist), therapy (psychologist) and self management, including the main one being sleep 'hygeine' (google it), monitoring - for me I keep daily charts; self discipline, diversion of energy into things like art, craft, exercise, cooking, gardening - generally things I can do quietly at home but still use my racing brain. Mindfulness activities are good too. I find I get overstimulated really easily if I let myself get out in the world too much. Sounds possibly too restrictive, but it's working at this time.

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@Dadcaringalone the charts include depression/elevation, sleep, anxiety, irritability, and medications. So I can see if I start to swing in one direction or another. I also use a Wellness Recovery Action Plan (WRAP) that's another thing you can google. It's brilliant and is there as a resource for my support people too if I get too far out of whack.

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@Mazarita @Bunniekins @Appleblossom I've just started a new thread called 'Managing Bipolar 1'. I'd love you to contribute what works for you and also tag anyone else you think might be interested or benefit from it. Thanks. @Dadcaringalone too (but I've just said what I've posted so far to you already).

Hoping it will be helpful to others, especially those newly diagnosed or thinking they might have it.

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Good morning to @eth@Mazarita@TAB@Dadcaringalone@CheerBear@all who pass. Hope you all have a super Friday 😄 xxx

@eth@Dadcaringalone Hi eth it is wonderful now that you can self monitor to a degree in any case. I can't I just fly off the handle and really need people around me to tell me what is happening. Unfortunately people around me (except for my daughter) have been relucant to pull me up when I have been flying or raging.

ps: Mazzy I am having difficulty emailing you .... the posts wont go through. Just wanted to say that your day yesterday sounded fantastic. xxx

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@Bunniekins You are such an angel 🧚🏻‍♂️Enjoy the movie🎟. Think you will enjoy it. The brother of her best friend from uni reminded my son of a creepy stalker who was in the mental health ward with him! He’s finally out of that bloody place, he managed to stay relatively sane while in the ward this time, just kept to himself away from the other patients and I took him for the longest possible leave every day! He managed, with my regular advocacy, to keep up with his uni work while an in-patient. He completed an assignment while on leave and tried his very best to keep his mind active because many patients just become sedated and their alertness deteriorates or regresses while in the ward. He’s very high functioning and it’s important that’s not lost while he’s an in-patient.

Thanks for asking about my conference. It went really well, even got quoted by one of the other participants. I managed to have 3 excellent and cheap massages while I was there which helped release the tension. The car my son had an accident in was fixed by the time I returned and he was discharged the day after, so now things are starting to get back in order after the last few weeks. The uni was a lot more flexible this time and the special consideration team has saved all my son’s subjects! Have a great day and so glad you are walking and enjoying your qi gong!

Keep truck’n!

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@eth Great Idea re bipolar site. I think it is needed.

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@Dadcaringalone I am so glad that the conference (2 relaxing massages nice one :)) went well and that your son's uni problems were sorted. Mental health wards are awful .... I am never going back there again and promised my son he wouldn't either (crossed fingers). Good on your son to be so determined to stay focussed and do his assignments (not an easy thing to do).

Have a wonderful day Dadcaringalone. Take care and talk soon. 😄

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