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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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Thanks @Mazarita and I agree. I feel full of "go you" feelings catching up with everything but scatterbrain makes it tricky.

How are you feeling this morning after yesterday?

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Scatterbrain is not so great, @CheerBear. When I get a bit withdrawn from the forum and responding to people, it's usually foggy or dull brain at the bottom of it. Fortunately the increase of anti-depressant seems to have brought my brain back to life after that big depression. I'm seeing and sensing things more when I'm out and about, and am more sociable, both of which I am enjoying.

I still have a one-sided headache from yesterday. In fact I've had a headache for most of the past four days. Not severe enough to be vomiting and heading for a dark room, but painful enough that I am cancelling all plans for today.

How are you feeling at this point with the new medication?

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Its really so good to hear of your positive turn @Mazarita. You show us how perseverance can really pay off. Its encouraging me to try harder with this medication with the hope that result in the longer term may be worth it. Sorry to hear of your headache. A rest day or quieter day sounds like it will be worth it. You've been busy lately!

I'm not sure about this new medication but I'm tolerating it enough to keep going. I'm having distrubing and really vivid dreams, more than usual. I'm not sure if the medication is playing a role in it though I have a feeling it may be. The anniversary of when life when bang is very soon and it could be that also. This time last year I noticed a big increase in re-experiencing symptoms just because of the time of the year. This is one of the big frustrating parts of medication for me - trying to work out what's medication related and what's not, both the good and bad!

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Hugs for the impending anniversary, @CheerBear. It may be both that are generating the disturbing dreams. Usually those symptoms subside after an initial period of being on a new medication. That's been my experience anyway. Hope they subside for you soon. I know the frustrating feeling of casting around for causes when things like this happen. Sometimes I think the lack of control that comes from not really knowing is just something we have to live with until things improve, or it becomes much clearer what is causing what.

Yes, I'm looking forward to this rest day now. I've had three days in a row of extending myself much more than I have been for a while. Time to take some recovery. I also haven't had much sleep overnight, as I've stayed up much longer in the breaks between the short sleeps.

Do you have plans for today that you'd like to share?

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Today I have my psych which is great @Mazarita. He's so helpful. I was given some info and a suggestion to join a new suicide prevention thing that's happening, where they're gathering people with lived experience to help it kick off in a few different ways. I want to ask his opinion on my readiness to participate in things like that as he knows me well (I have a feeling he will be encouraging of it). Then some errands before school is out early for the term. The little crew and I are heading out again this afternoon to spend more time with people before one has their surgery next week. It feels really important to do that right now and there will be a couple of extra people there over the next days who I'm thinking are feeling the same way too. It will be good to see them 🙂 Big day ahead for me, but that's OK.

Thanks for understanding Maz. You do that so well ❤ I hope the headache subsides and you feel better again soon. I should probably get moving as I have some organising things to do. Really good to catch you this morning, thanks.

@eth thank you for your lovely message yesterday. It gave me a big smile to read, as it gives me a smile to hear how you're going with your support workers. My friend and I are going really well. It's taking some adjusting to in ways, but his company is often uplifting and he makes me laugh a lot. He's kind too and supportive in a way I haven't experienced from a person in this context. Lovely to hear of your garden. Like Mazarita, I have a beautiful image of where you are in my mind 🙂

@outlander thanks for your messages too. I'm not posting in a thread I used to post a lot in anymore, that you've visited recently. A big part of it is that after something scary happened, I now feel safer burying posts in busy threads. I appreciate your thoughts though and wanted to let you know that. I'm not entirely sure where you're at, though I think you get some results today. Crossing fingers everything is OK enough.

@Faith-and-Hope I read your news with sad feelings with you wanting to send you huge love. Thinking of you.

(I did manage to reply to some after all 🙂)

Sending lots of hugs to all who'd like them 🌈❤👋

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Love and good wishes for your big day, @CheerBear. Great to chat with you again this morning, as always.

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@Bunniekins

Hi there greenpea.

Sorry I have been out of contact! Things have been a bit out of control recently since my son has been admitted, only really starting now to catch up with things and the pile of washing in the laundry needs some serious attention. Got the car back on Tuesday after my son’s accident the day he was admitted so, it’s nice getting off public transport. My son’s in a much better place after he was weaned off the incorrectly prescribed antidepressants which were causing his suicide attempts, my current feeling is that those medications are dangerous and should only be prescribed by psychiatrists not GPs! My son’s moods are much more stable now, but we have all this stuff which he bought when he was manic which needs to be returned, $4000+ from JB Hifi!

Thats great what your mental health nurse is suggesting, get out there girl! The weathers definitely improving here in Sydney. I saw “Crazy Rich Asians” with my son on leave while he was in hospital, its a beautiful romantic comedy which shows how crazy families can be. Picnics and other adventures sound like a great idea and as I always say, keep truck’n! I have to get up to start the washing, get the old body moving and try to knock over a few things today before watching the football tonight. Seeing my daughter next week, excited about this. Take care and have a great day

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Good morning everyone @Mazarita @Dadcaringalone @CheerBear @outlander @Former-Member @Bunniekins @Shaz51 @Teej @Faith-and-Hope @Appleblossom@Exoplanet @TAB and anyone else dropping by here today.

Thanks for the mentions those who have.

@Dadcaringalone I hear you on the subject of antidepressants (ad's) causing adverse responses (undesired effects) of mania triggered by them. I'm sorry to hear your son and consequently went through all the chaos that can cause. (wild adventures, over spending, risky behaviours, rapid speech and thought, terrible car crashes, hypersexuality, and ultimately psychosis a few times and a suicide attempt 20 years ago - all of which took a huge toll on my child). Several hospitalizations but no accurate diagnosis. I spent about 25 years always being prescribed ad's and being triggered by them, all the different types do this to me. I wasn't diagnosed with bipolar1 until I was 46 years old. I now see that partly it was because I only presented to Drs when I was in a bad low period. When I was flying high I was loving it. But now I've known for 9 years what's really happening and all my Drs have documented that I am not to be prescribed ad's. However I am on some other psych drugs that took a long while to get the balance right (totally compliant with what's prescribed for me) but I haven't had hypomania now for a year and my depressions haven't been as severe or lasted as long. I am able to see early changes or warning signs and monitor myself closely. And get to my psychiatrist or GP asap. If there's any way at all that I can help, even just to listen, feel free to reach out to me. Hoping I haven't overshared here but I'd love to help others prevent going through a lot of what I did.

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Sorry @eth am a bit flat today re no reply bipolar is something I have experienced , only through relationships tho. I do wonder sometimes in retrospect re my decisions and actions when ‘feeling good’ .. um depression/anxiety is probably more my own personal experience . Yes I wonder about over sharing sometimes. But its whatever feels right I guess. Thanks for your post and thanks for tagging me 😸

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Hi @TAB hope you feel better as the day progresses.

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