Night Shift

@comet, I'm quite sure you mean well, and so does Teej. I think if he says it's all right, then it should be okay. 🙂

(ps, I didn't get to read about what you guys talked about, sorry, but I don't think you should leave anyway.)

Dear @Former-Member and @comet

We are all different and that is a good thing.

We are also super sensitive and it is easy for unintended bumps to occur when we enter a more relaxed stage of group culture where humour and banter and camraderie come into play.

The form, storm, norm, perform. What makes one person laugh may wound another.

Hope you both stay.

@Mazarita I followed that link and I see what you mean .. dont know how to fix it.

The article was about new research into sleep. With focus on animals (sloth, duck, the lot) IN THE WILD. Most research to date has been done on those in captivity.

IN THE WILD sleep varies a lot more where animals go without for long periods, sleep for longer periods, and yes, cat nap.

It puts some my/our struggles with sleep in perspective. The research isnt out yet they are just developing it.

Yes the variation in European approaches is what finally got me to relax a bit about it.

When I was a kid Australians tended to have tea at 5/5.30, where we had dinner at 7 and sometimes a late supper etc.

The Germans do school in the morning .. still ...

and then the lovely Medditteranean attidudes and routines are so sensible for their climate.

There are problem when we standardise everything .. and dont allow for diversity and individual differences.

You mentioned "ideal" and maybe that is part of the problem .. with always aspiring to an ideal, there is a dislocation, which may stop us from accepting "what is." The acceptance might be key to relaxing and falling into a blissful sleep.

We had always done midnight mass and supper after .. where as some kids never had that experience .. anyway there are lots more reasons why I am just more of a night owl.

Hi @comet and @Former-Member,

I didn't get to read the original posts either so don't really know what went down on the page. But be assured that many of us on the forum (including me) have felt the need to apologise from time to time for gaffes we feel we have made or things said that were taken in a way that wasn't intended. Remember that we are all dealing with mental health struggles here and that it's much easier for these misunderstandings to happen because of that. As @Appleblossom has said, it's also much easier for us to blow them out of proportion in our own minds.

On the other hand, the fact that we all have our mental health challenges means that we have more intimate understandings of this that others might not, and are potentially able to resolve a thing like this more effectively with compassion.

If you are both okay with forgiving each other for the glitch in communication (which you both seem to have done already), there is really no need for it to be drawn out further than that. But, as @Faith-and-Hope, has said, I also understand that sometimes our emotions can be rocked at times like this and so a little break may be in order if really necessary. But I think it would be more healing in some ways if that wasn't the case!

We really appreciate both of you so much here and miss you both when you were not around. Kindest wishes to you both always.