when is it time for hospital

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@outlander I am not in a good headspace at all at the moment and thus can't be much help to anyone. However, I wanted you to know that I have read your post and there is one thing that really jumped out at me. You sound really concerned about how your family will cope for a month without you if you go to the mental health retreat. The thought that crossed my mind was that if you go to the retreat, your family will have to cope for 4 weeks without you. If you suicide, they will have to cope without you forever.

Hi @outlander xx

The health retreat does sound quite nice but its 4 weeks, Mr shaz nearly went to a Health retreat for a few weeks but he said no , I can`t , I like too but I can`t

@outlander, since then I have wished he did do it , I think it would of helped him , instead of him still having lots of ups and downs

@outlander - lots you have written there and thanks so much for sharing given it is very personal issues. I am glad you went to the psychiatrist and that she appears to give you some advice. Of course end of day it is up to you to try to take her advice or not. The good thing is that you recognise that you need help and you are trying to sought help. So kudos to you on that.

As for the retreat 4 weeks - I can see how torn you are between knowing that you need help and being selfish as you know that this may be the help you require but yet there is the responsibility of being a carer. It is a tough choice especially given how I know how selfless you are. Maybe write down a list of pros and cons of both if you think that may help. Even voice them out here if you think any of us can help. Sometimes we need to be selfish for ourselves because we need to get ourselves better first before we can take care of others. Whatever your decision ends up being, all of us are here to help you out and through it and support you as always. We all love and care for you a whole lot

hello @outlander

you have wriiten a lot here my friend xx

you had ---------- She wants me to start doing things for myself as well and to take the time to just do something each day that I want to do even if I dont feel like it esp the drawing as she said that was something that was helping me and even if I dont feel like it do it any way itll give my brain something else to think about. She wants me to get my favourite books back out and start reading them again, even write recounts of eahc chapter to keep my mind occupied if thats something im into

and also , starting a new meds ---- Tomorrow I start a new medication when I get to my gp in the morning and she has also increased to to see my gp twice a week otherwise they will be ringing in to check on me and if I dont answer theres a possibility they will send an ambulance and have me admitted involuntary

That's a lot of stuff to digest. Sounds like you have challenging decision to make. While I can't tell you what option is better, what I can suggest is think foreward about the possible consequences of either going away to the retreat, or not going, and ask yourself which one you would prefer to live with in the long term.

Maybe write those thoughts down here if you want to talk through it with us?

aaannnd right on cue @Shaz51@Anony18@CherryBomb

i have yet another argument about my mental health

my mother thinks everytime i go to see anyone that i come back a psychopath

i asked about the hospitals and also offered her to speak to my psych and also my gp and she doesnt want anythign to do with it

shes really angry at me 😞 what did i do 😞

PROS AND CONS

going to the retreat

pro- get the help needed
4 weeks is a long time
no one will know me there

cons- too mnay responsibilities here
casues arguments between me and family
family is judgemental
too much responsibility left here if I go

hospital
pros- closer
prob wont stay as long

cons- too mnay responsibilites here
too much responsibility left here
casues arguments
judgemental family
too many people know me in my local area

continue now

pros- not putting responsibility on anyone else
I still go to my gp and psychiatrist and organsie a psychologist
not so judgemental of people
I can keep this hidden

cons- I have too much responsibility
I need more help
im getting into trouble off family anyway
my mother thinks im a psychopath