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What is normal in the world

What is normal in the world

Let alone having Bipolar making me feel different I just in general feel defective.

My graduating class and friends well majority of them are married with children.

They are doing what "Life" is meant to be. Education, Travel, Love, Work, House, Children, Retire,
Grandparents, Die and Repeat.

The fact I haven't got children dose not phase me. The fact I don't have a house or killer job/education doesn't worry me. What upsets me is the fact I don't want these things. I don't want what life is. I feel like a weirdo.

It's bad enough being mentally ill but then not wanting what the world is about on top of it makes me feel very isolated.

I try talking to friends and family about this and their reply is these people living this life might not be happy and I'm like I never said if they are happy or not. And that I will change my mind one day and it's normal to be scared of starting a family. But I don't have fear about it. That's not what's stopping me. I just don't think they get what I'm saying. I'm not upset I don't have those things I'm upset I don't want life.

I look at everyone I know and they seem so content and happy with where they are in life and me I need more. I can't stop.

My husband last night asked me if I'm happy with today. If I just sit in and take in what's around me and happy with it. My answer is I don't live in the day. I live for tomorrow. I'm tiered.

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Hello @Former-Member I had this conversation last week with a friend, I have never had goal setting behaviour, I did not want children, I did not want a house with I picket fence, when I was self employed I did not want to expand, a friend who started the same type of business now employe's 90 people, through my 20's I was forever asked by friends, when are you going to get married, get a house etc etc, and that eventually made me pull away from my friends, so yes it was pointed out to me that I was not "normal" I do not understand why I was like that. except for the children part I knew very early that I was not going to pass this illness onto any children.

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Dear Loulathecat,

There is no such thing as normal in this world. I have bi-polar too, and it has severely afected my life at certain stages, but I am also an individual with a unique personality like everyone else in the world. Sometimes we get tripped up by our illness, other times we get tripped up by other sides to our characters. You are not a freak. You are a human being like the rest of us. And "happiness" is something we make for ourselves and is diferent with eveyone. You might want a Porsche. I don't.

Start with the little things which give you pleasure. A cup of coffee out. A good book. Some drawing or painting. A chat with a friend. I know you feel you don't want the world, I have felt that way myself, I have felt what's the point doing this day after day, but silly as it seems make a list of things you enjoy (or don't mind doing) and try to incorporate at least one into your life every day. Nothing can "make" you happy, you have to seek out happiness. By the way, I have 4 children, don't let bi-polar ruin your life. Ellu

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Helo @Former-Member

From reading your post I am almost hearing that the things that you want or need in your life is something that you think you 'should' need or want and this is an external pressure from peers around you but in reality you don't and this is concerning you and making you feel tired. You are not weird, you need more and that is okay.

Have you always felt this way or is this a new concern of yours? And I am interested to know more about what you mean by 'don't want life' what is life to you, I would like to understand that more?

Thinking of you @Former-Member ❤️

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@getbetter I'm glad I'm not alone in this feeling but it sucks you feel this to. I never really wanted children but after being diganoused with bipolar I don't want to risk it happening to my children nor do I want them to have to live with a mum that had high and lows. Zero parents are perfect but I know I will be even more less perfect.

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Thank you for your reply Ellu but I don't feel your really grasping what I'm saying. I agree everyone in the world is unquie. Things in life do make me happy. But nothing satisfy's me. It's great to know you have children but I just don't feel confident with it for myself.

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Having Bipolar and being in a marriage is easier if you let your partner 'in' and involve them as a Carer. Sometimes feeling Bipolar is different to living Bipolar. Mood tracking against activities is a good way to get started on setting your own and joint milestones. Also knowing that on days that are simply another day that's ok. Self nurturing and grace can be an important part of daily life with a mental illness.

I have children, I'm divorced and my children don't live with me. I don't think I failed though as I put many years into raising them and looking after my mental health. However not involving my partner as a Carer ultimately meant we lost the good that made us a couple......

good luck with with your relationships and I hope that you can treasure them,

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@Former-Member you kind of got it. I don't feel pressure by people around me. Yes they are annoying and my family wants a grandchild and all that stuff but I can easily say no to them. I'm stubborn.

What I'm feeling the pressure from is life it self. The actual cycle of society life. Get born go to school, get more school, fall in love, get married, get a great job, buy house, have children, get gran children, die and the next generation repeat.

I've been feeling like this since day one. I feel defective. I know everyone dose not want children and chose travel or what ever but they are still doing to cycle of life with having friendships, socialising, learning,

See I see all these things and they are healthy normal things everyone is doing but I got zero desire to do it. I also don't feel like it's my bipolar or depression not wanting me to live the so called life.

I constantly need more. I can blow a few hundred on clothing, see some friends, get my hair done and eat a good meal and to me I need more. I'm just never satisfied with what I got. Like even my husband he dose not fulfill me or makes me feel content. I want more but I don't know what I want. I just want to fill full and at peace but I can't find peace in this world.

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Dear Loulathecat,

I have bi-polar as well, and sometimes I feel as if there is nothing to attract me about the world. I have family, children, friends but sometimes I just don't want to know them, Ijust want to lie in bed with the pillow over my head and wait for time to pass.

I'll tell you one thing that has helped me greatly - that is doing voluntary work. It doesn't matter what type of work it is, as long as it is something you enjoy doing. Helping others makes you feel better about yourself and makes you feel like a real human being. Even if you do only half a day a week, that gives you something to look forward to which having your nails done doesn't. It helps make you feel part of a community, and things seem meaningful again. Any of the organizations such as the Salvation Army or St. Vincent de Paul would welcome you with open arms. Try shifting the point of gravity away from YOUR life to the lives of others in the world. I do it, and it gives meaning to my life.

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@Ellu that's great you volunteer. I use to volunteer taking motivational speakers into high schools and hosting youth events and actually ended up working high up for it. We would reach over 20 thousand youth, teachers and parents in a week and I did it twice a year. I would get emails from students who where wanting to give up or where getting abused at home and now have the confidence to talk to their teacher. I got emails from teachers saying the rejected kid now has friends. It never made me feel full. I knew what I'm doing is life changing and important but in my mind when I volunteered I just had the spare time and think every human should give.

I don't feel this is a bipolar issue or I could be wrong. This feeling never passes. It gets worse but it will never pass. I just feel really like a mistake. Like I just feel like an alien. It's like I'm floating above everyone watching them thinking they are ever mice chasing the cheese or people who have given up and do the 9-5 and I know there's nothing wrong with that and it's healthy normal life but I look down on it and go where is my place.

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Dear loulathecat,

I know how you feel about those bi-polar sensations because I am bi-polar too. I saw my doctor today and he said, "You know, what do you think is the worst thing people feel about bi-polar disorder?" he said "Loneliness". We always feel a bit diferent from the world, outsiders even when we have family and good friends. Loneliness is something no tablet can take away. It is something we need to accept and work around. By making sure we live full lives and contribute in some way to society, and working out our own coping strategies for when we are feling down. These strategies vary from person to person, and it may take some time to work out what works for you, I have no answer (does anyone?) but I accept that feelings of loneliness are part of my illness and I have to do my best to cope with them. Wishing you well,

Ellu

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