14th year house bound

I can't believe it Karen, i think with the mental health stuff, people want you to get better, they are too scared to talk about it, i feel the same as you, i am not scared either, but you say that and everyone freaks out.

I think if you like talk about it with me, if the moderators would allow it, i wish you could have email so we could talk candedly and not have to watch what we say.

I totally understand it must be so frustrating to have the girls used against you, but you must understand it would affect the girls big time, that is the thing with SI, it will affect everyone you know and love, it is just a consequance of the action. that is why i am waiting for mum to go, so i have no one to upset.

Karen please don't be sorry, i am willing to talk about all topics, even the uncomfortable ones. hiding it only makes it worse, and fuels the thought proccess.

Karen it is just the hand we are dealt, we always have to fight, we are fighting ourselves. Karen you feelings and you as a person are special to me, i always see you as a person and not a "condition" it is sad that sometimes ourselves seem to be put aside for people trying to fix our symptoms.

Karen, i know you are really struggling, but you should be proud of the fact you went to the MHU when you said you would never go again, and going to those classes must be horendus. but you go to them. A big virtual hug from me.

Thanks for the hug Jacques, it is so hard to discuss and keep the moderators happy. It's not like some one who reads this is going to go out and do it. It just doesn't work that way.

What am I putting myself through this when Ican't sit down and have an honest conversation with some one. There is no magic pill that's going to make it go away.

SorryJacques I'm just so frustrated and there are still no answers as to how to stop those plans from becoming my reality

Thank you for being here Jacques just when I need a friend

i know how hard it is, i try so hard to watch what i say, but sometimes thing just need to be said.

maybe one day we will meet and can discuss this openly together.

i am shocked you can't have that conversation their, it seems the appropriate place to have it. you are right, we think about this constantly, it is about managing the urges not blaming or using a guilt trip to stop it.

karen please don't be sorry that is why i am here, i know the urges will always be their, i just hope that by talking to me and having a friend in me that you can keep putting it off, we all need a reason to keep going, you are my reason, so is mum. you just need to find a reason to keep going, never stop searching for a reason karen, their is always somehing.

That the problem Jacques is that I don't have a reason I don't see a future I just see more pain and suffering.

Sorry I know it's your dinner time I'll stop now.

Hi @Jacques & @hiddenite

*waves*

I haven't had a chance to "catch up" with either of you lately, so I thought I would drop by.

Just reading over some of your recent posts, I wanted to clarify a few things, in particular as to why we don't allow certain discussions about suicide.

1) It is alarming / distressing to other members who are concerned for your well being.

2) It is triggering to other members. This is the same reason we don't allow detailed and descriptive conversations about abuse - the detail of it is extremely triggering to others. Evidence and research shows that exposure to such triggering and detailed content to be triggering, distressing and traumatic.

3) It normalises suicide

4) In the Guidelines there is a section about using the forums, it reads 'Open for all manner of discussions but at the end of the day, aimed towards wellbeing, recovery or positive maintenance, and/or positive help seeking behaviours' You can read Guidelines in their entirety here

I'm keen to assist you both in more depth about how to best use the Forums - so I will drop you both an email with more information.

Take care.

Nik

Well Karen, i am sure by now you and the girls are having your visit, i know it will be tough, so i am here if you need a little company, please be kind to yourself.

Jacques

Sorry Jacques to cause so much trouble I didn't intend it to be like this.

Karen it is ok, please don't be upset, maybe this is a good thing, we can start a new thread, just you and me, please don't be upset, i will always be your friend no matter what, you are always here for me and so i will be for you.