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Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

It took 40 years but I finally signed up for psychology therapy. So many issues, some highly traumatising, and accepted, yet the biggest and simplest issue i can accept and deal with and get over is how my parents dont love me and Ive found myself isolated, devastated and in a hole too big for me to get out of on my own when it comes to accepting and letting go.

5 years ago I started waking up to the realisation my life was a complete lie. I have a severely mentally ill mother who suffers from Narcisistic personality disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, skitzophrenia, hoarding, spending addiction, theivery... shes never said I love you, is very manipulative and has all of her life roles really screwed up.Shes gone to great lengths to fabricate my home life with my father and brother and will go to greater lengths to preserve and protect it. Everyday of my life has been a complete trainwreck of constant trauma and with noone to protect me from it.

It was like waking from a hazy dream after decades of neglect, abuse, blame and scapegoating and looking back to see a complete 4 decade long space of my life which is empty and has absolutely no personalised identity of my own to relate to. Her mental illness has robbed 4 decades of my life and it quite literally felt like someone had stolen it from me. Consequently the trauma from this conscious rationalisation cost my own mental health and physical health greatly. Thankfully I met my first genuine caring doctor 3 years ago and has made sure i got the appropriate stable footing support i needed to survive the depression and distress that ensued.

My father refuses to protect me from her. He regards her a saint, mind you she hisses at him and spits in his face when she bullies him with threats of chaos if he dare do anything against what she demands of her or to be a father towards me - the skitophrenic side of her is truely frightingly scary. He has been a absent dad, to get away from her, and a critically ill one because of her, but its me who has been ensuring he recieves his proper medical attention when she abandons him in his time of need despite my heart breaking for the simple love of a parent.

well now my health has deteriorated. i have no partner because the last one, the father of my kids, mirrored her, and so not in my life. I have been slowly cutting her out of my life because her toxicity and mind games were weighing that heavily on my health, the doctor told me straight out, i am getting seriously ill from the stress, cut out the stress or minimise it, or i will not be able to treat you. Having an autoimmune disease means stress is easily a heavy hand on my vital organs with little effort.

I am currently struggling and battling with the grief and loss process that comes with realising that your parents never loved you, that it was true when they said that being forced to have kids through expectation meant that they never could live their fanciful dreams or was rushed to marry because someone may steal the other away. My father was actually a healthy and individual man for the first 5 years of my life, but now hes broken down into a minion of marionette proportions who feels that at my age of 41, he still needs to meet my needs with money or food out of shame because it was his responsibility to as a father; was it was obvious to them as everyone else they didnt love me but rather felt burdened to have me?

ok so this is where i am now. Feeling all sorts, some controlled, some uncontrolled, generally most of the time im logical and non emotional, but at other times im suddenly drowning in the sea of sadness, loneliness and abandonment, at my age surely i should be able to deal with it and let it go. I can see the logic in the truth that was blatently obvious, ive even made it clear by responding to their behaviour and beliefs of irrationality and delusion with healthy functional behaviour and actions in order to protect myself. I know that its their problem, i have been the dutiful plesant accomodating daughter, the straight a student, the successful business woman, successful caring and nurturing mother. There is no reason for them not to love me. I would have been better off being adopted out given the vast array of traumatic experiences i have had as a child as a result of their recklessness and lack of love. I often wonder why i wasnt.

My problem is, I accept things on a logical, rational, spiritual sense, but my emotional sense is deeply disturbed. I have created a space of safety and stability for myself, slowly accepting its ok to be angry at them, sad at them for being so cruel. I understand the whole reason for everything, all the logical markers to understand it. Im even leting it go now. But for some reason, my grief and loss is still overwhelming even though ive cut out most of the triggers that are making me ill (i.e. my mother and my misguided enabler father) and the frustratingly annoying fact that i am 40 years old, feeling like i am 5 when it comes to disconnecting from my parents.

I dont know what i can do to get over this hump, there must be others in a similar position....who could recommend reading material maybe or offer insight into how they handled emotions... im not quite sure even what Im trying to achieve, im that lst over this situation. anyone else and i would be angry and move on, but parents should love their children, they chose to have kids, especially when those children have done nothing but be good to them even when they are used as doormats.

My cocker spaniel puppy has recently turned 15. Shes been with me since I broke up with my kids father and been the glue for me and the kids to survive all these years through a lot. Shes deteriorating fast and i soon have to make that decision to put her to sleep. I have no friends except one best friend and her family, because my mother (and my family) scare away anyone who gets close to me and my best friend has been through a similar mother but had the support of a loving husband. i dont mind being single and on my own independance. but when my puppy goes, a child i have to put to sleep, i wont have anyone to turn to like what a parent and their support and love should provide. Unlike my parents, i do actually have emotional functioning and a sense of humanitarian sensitivity. So i need to understand my grief and loss hump with them so that my grief and loss of my best friend puppy doesnt become unbearable.

Why cant i get over awful nasty people who dont care if im alive or dead but use any opportunity possible to use me? Yeah they do hate me, they never share emotion, they dont give hugs, never said i love you, and when a pet dies the first thing that they say is'dont you dare get another pet'. Sadly animals are my family because i dont have a human one. Not that its a bad thing, or an unappreciated thing, but doesnt sound very healthy for me to be like that. My parents abandoned me during a coma after a life threatening birth of my first child, they left me to wander a city hospital lost and disorientated without contact, support or even basic living essentials after my emergency admittance, for days, so yeah i understand they dont love me.

I just cant get over it. What do others do to try and deal with such things?

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In response to: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Re: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Hi @Simone

What a truly terrible story you have to tell. I really do feel for you. Although it seems you have a really long way to go, you have also travelled a really long way, and that's shows real strength in itself. I think it's good that you have signed up for psychology therapy. It's also good that you have a doctor that is genuine and cares about you.

I thought I would do some research for you and came up with an organisation that you might like to contact - the National Network of Adult and Adolescent Children who have a Mentally Ill Parent/s. You can find their website by clicking here. Another one I found is Adult Children of those with a Mental Illness and their website is here.

What you have found here on SANE forums is a wonderful place that is full of supportive people that can offer your some really kind words and advice. Some of our members are @kristin @Alessandra1992 @kenny66 and @kato .

I have also found some other discussion threads that you might like to have a read of - it may show you that you are not alone. Click here and here

And I also read that now you have the problem of your cocker spaniel having to be put down. This must be terrible, as you put it, he's your best friend.

Well you have friends here @Simone - just keep posting and get to know some of the wonderful members here. You will find love and support, believe me.

Hobbit.

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Re: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Dear @Simone

First a very warm welcome to the forum, you have come to the right place. Thanks for your very honest and courageous first post. If you accept them then please have a lot of cyber hugs - it sounds like you need them. You have been through hell and survived. Very understandably you're in a lot of pain - physical and emotional.

What you describe sounds SO much like a cross between my maternal grandparents and my mum herself that I just kept on nodding and saying "uhuh". Very high on the toxicity scale.

Yet all the logical understanding in the world will not help you get beyond the grief. Did you deserve this - no, was it your fault - no, can you do something about it (on top of minimising or cutting contact) - yes. Part of the answer in my experience is both simple and confronting - you need to allow youreslf to grieve. I started reading a book a little while ago, which was very helpful, and I now hope to have space to get back to - Legacy of the Heart: The Spiritual Advantages of a Painful Childhood by Wayne Muller. He includes some mindfulness exercises in each chapter to help with processing the grief. Don't get me wrong I don't agree with all he says but I've read a lot of this sort of thing over the years, and this comes pretty close to a sense of he "gets it".

I understand your distress at the thought of losing your beloved pet, and I'm truly sorry - I've had to say goodbye to a few too. I wonder if this might not be your dog's final gift of love - an opportunity, a catalyst, to release some of this long held grief? Inside you it will literally break your heart.

It's great that you are getting help, and good help from the sounds of it. Please keep posting, I'm sure some of the others will "pop in" to welcome you too. @kenny66 @Alessandra1992 @Ellie @peace @kato to mention a few.

There are lots of different topics on the forum, one which you might find of interest is about putting together a "coping box" for those very painful and triggering times. Feel free to join in on any of the conversations.

It sounds like you are doing pretty well at taking care of you - in the best possible sense, keep up the good work.

Kindest regards,

Kristin

In response to: Re: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Re: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

I guess losing a parent is hard.

I got over the grief of losing mine relatively easily once I thought about all of the verbal and physical abuse thrown in with the sexual exploitation at the hands my mothers male friend/s over a period of years.

My view is if they are bad people it doesn't matter whether they are related or not. Being from the same blood doesn't give anyone a licence to treat you as you are being treated.

Life is about self preservation, not tolerating physical or mental harm. I just got over it once I got used to the realisation that there was no love there in any event.

For you beautiful puppy I suggest you get a rescue dog when your little one passes on. Its not a replacement but I found a new dog gives you unconditional love and requires your energy to look after it which can make you forget about other issues.

Its also doing a good deed to home an abandoned dog.

In response to: Re: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Re: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Hi @Simone ,

I understand the difficulty in understanding and processing how parents dont love you. I had a terrible time of things as a kid with my parents, similarly.. my mother being the one with undiagnosed MI who was very abusive verbally, emotionally and physically. and a farther who was absent alot because of her but was also abusive in all ways. I now have no contact with a single member of my family. It hurts. I've always had difficulties with shame and blame.. blaming myself for not being able to change things. My psychologist and I have been working on so much of that lately and I too am beginning to feel the grief that comes wiht a certain level of acceptance about the fact that they didnt love me. Its also something that im not sure that I'll ever really be able to get any 'whole' answers too. For me, it's helped to continue to challenge thinking that is harmful to do with my self blame. And its been my psychologist who has been able to help more than anything else. I would encourage you to share with a good psychologist (which i think you said you were going to at the start). I can also relate to your impending sadness over losing your fur baby friend. I love my animals too and i think it is so unfair that they have such short lives and can only be with us for so long. I'm glad that you are here. There is no way that it will be less than awful and extremely sad when the time comes but I'll be here listenin if you are here.

Look forward to seeing you around the forums

LJ

In response to: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Re: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Hi Simone

As I went through something similar, I went to a psychologist and he used mindfulness and present-centred meditation as well as talking through the history. Amazingly to me, after 40 years of dwelling on the 'why can't I fit in' syndrome the memories are just that...memories. I will always remember the wasted years but they now don't hurt me. The memories are just images flitting in and then out...I no longer feel any emotion towards the memories...just an awareness of them. I am living in the present.

Good luck with your recovery journey.

In response to: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Re: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Hello @Simone, nad welcome to the forums.

My heart hurts, reading your post. I can hear many echoes of your post in my own life, in my own unfulfilled relationship with my own parents, and it reminds me again how that relationship is the underpinning of our lives, of our fundamental sense of self. I struggle daily with trying to hold in place a positive sense of self-esteem, and always the little boy in me cries, "But how can I love myself, when even my parents couldn't see anything good in me?"

A few years back, driven by sadness and futility, I decided to sever my relationship completely with both my parents and my siblings. I had come to realise how toxic it was, and how costly, trying to maintain the illlusion that how I was treated, the image that had been carved for me on the family totem pole, was somehow okay and sustainable. I was prepared for the hurt and sense of abandonment that rushed in to fill the emptiness, but one thing I wasn't prepared for was the realisation that what I was searching for was not in them anyway. Because of their abuse and unbridled bad behaviour, I realised I had given up on the people that were my parents, a long time before. But it's a double whammy, because there's also the psychic level of wanting to be parented in a loving manner, the image of the mythic-mother and the mythic-father, that (I think) we all have, that I still clung to. I realised that these images didn't map at all onto my physical-world parents, not even as a rough fit, and that that had (probably) been part of the problem in our relationship. I had been hurt and saddened by the way my parents behaved towards me, of course, but I had also been holding them against a psychic template that said, "How can you behave this way? You're my parents." And the truth is, some parents are really crap at the job.

I started to see my parents for the perpetually-clinging children they really were, caught between wanting me to fill their own empty mythic-parent template, but at the same time angrily and indignantly trying to hold the upper position in the power dynamic. And it was in that, that I started to see some glimmers of self-esteem: I had been aware that I had been put in the role of parenting my parents from a very young age, and that adult children have an even greater need to strike out in their shame at the one they have pushed into the parent role, but I also realised that one reason I got singled out for attack in the family dynamic was because I was, in fact, the strongest, the one most capable of filling their emotional need, but also the one that therefore triggered their need to strike out and destroy.

It's a really painful role to have, not least because (as I've discovered in my own life) we then inherit the tendency to recreate relationships in our own lives as adults that mirror what's gone before with our parents. I think the danger is in seeing ourselves cast in a role we were born to play, as if we have no other options. Unfortunately for me, I stepped away from my mother and simultaneously met a woman who wanted to be my "best friend" and set about surreptitiously recreating my real mother's behaviour in my waking life -- being violent, both physically and psychically, being repressive, judgemental, controlling, punishing, spiteful, demanding and vindictive. I was numb; I was unable to defend or define myself, and it ate up a further fifteen years of my life before I could finally formulate the thought of, "Hang on, this is not okay." I had a leech feeding on me for all that time.

I think it's hard not to feel ashamed, and I think that's a natural reaction. I was duped; I was used; I trusted people who did not have my best interests not only at heart, but really anywhere in the equation.

I don't know if any of this rings true for you. There are two things I'm trying to share from my own experience, in the hope that it might show some empathy with yours, @Simone, and hopefully provide some useful thoughts :

One is that it's possible that your parents didn't love you *not* because you're not lovable, but because of their own limitations. Mine certainly didn't love me, and used me for a kind of pressure release in their relationships with my siblings and the world in general. They did it, I now believe, because I was the one who could bend that much without breaking, and possibly also because they actually didn't like me, so I became the pup that was eaten to give the mother strength to feed the others. And they were never going to clean up their relationship with me and show me actual love, because the same weakness in them that led them to brutalise me meant that they also couldn't face acknowledging what they'd done to one of their children. They colluded in their behaviour and made a kind of thieves' bargain, whereby the same mother who could call my father names for throwing me against a wall could also punish me herself, both pysically and emotionally, for allegedly provoking him in the first place. I was just a kid, for crying out loud -- even when I became an adult, I was really just a kid. For myself, I've found solace for my situation in reading a book by the German psychoanalyst Alice Miller, called "The Drama of the Gifted Child" -- though I still find it incredibly emotional going to read, and find it really puts me in touch with my grief, I do feel like it's helping me to come out the other side, though.

And the second thing is, as I've learned very slowly and unsurely throughout my life, that they ripped me down because I was actually stronger than them. It's not much consolation, and I have to guard against that inflating my ego, but it is a kind of protection against the thought that I had no instrinsic value, and that they attacked me because I somehow deserved it. It's sooo easy to fall into thinking that I must have deserved being treated badly, and that they saw all the flaws and failings in me that I am somehow unwilling or unable to see in myself, but it just isn't true. Their failings are their own, not mine. And it's *really* hard to acknowledge that, because it feels like I'm also attacking the idealised mythic-mother and mythic-father images, but I'm just being honest about their weaknesses as people and my plight as their son.

I don't know if any of this makes sense to you, @Simone , and I'm certainly not trying to lecture you. I feel I can only share where our experiences seem like they might overlap, and if any of it rings true for you and helps in your thoughts, then I'm glad. All best wishes to you, and I hope having posted here and received responses feels like a positive thing for you to have done.

In response to: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Re: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

@Simone, sweetheart.

Thanks for writing. I am reading your message but can only take it in a bit at a time. but am reading you, I am hearing you.

Anne
@PeppiPatty

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Re: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

I am new to being in a forum. I can relate to several of the posts in here. I have been trying to have a relationship with my mother for 40 years. She doesn't want it. period. She told me that. I had a horrible childhood and was raised to feel like a burden. I do not relate well with kids as I didnt have that bonding experience as a child. I grew up terrified of my father and there was physical abuse by both parents. I moved out when i was 17.

I can only speak for myself. I don't believe you ever get over this. I moved to another country believing it would make it easier to deal with the rejection. I still get hurt when I call her and she doesn't want to talk to me. Shes not interested in my life and never has been. Long story short is I don't call too often so I don't get hurt too often. She will never change. You cant make someone want a relationship with you. Its messed up I know from personal experience. My mother suffers from depression which I only found out a few years before I moved away. I never knew this which may explain some things about my childhood. I dont know. She and I cant have a real conversation. I have to keep it superficaial like talk about sewing or cooking or it ends badly.

All I can say is I know it hurts, I know it makes no sense. I have said for years that they should have given me up for adoption to a family that would be happy to raise me. I probably will keep calling her every so often so in the end I know I did the right thing. My folks are in their 70s and there would be times that I felt guilty moving 8,000 miles away when they are old, but self preservation is important. I dont feel guilty usually after I call her as the call is usually a disappointment. Sadly, just about every time I hang up the phone I am usually glad I left the country and I tell myself to not call again for a while.

In response to: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Re: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Your story is so close to my own. How dare they not love you. (I'm beginning to realise that about my parents too). And peeps from ordinary loving families never believe us when we disclose our dysfunctional childhood.
I have found working thru the exercises in "Will I Ever Be Good Enough" to have been massively helpful in understanding and moving on from my mother's narcissistic, bipolar, borderline personality disorder, alcoholic incapacity to love me.
I have times when I am too overwhelmed by the everyday to be the mother I want to be; but my gorgeous darklings (even the teenage boyo) must've got enough of the Best Mother that they pick up my despair and bestow acts of pure love... Developely disabled son made me a cup of tea yesterday and sat by me while I cried. I am one of the very few mothers whose (upper primary aged) children run up to me with hugs in the school grounds in front of all the other kids...
Logically, I must be doing a good job as a mum - despite my mother, on sharing the news of my first pregnancy, stating that I would make a dreadful parent; that apparently I have no maternal feelings, etc.

Being unloved by ones parents means you were abused, and it does not make sense. Perhaps try to imagine putting those feelings in a box. Move that box aside. Yeah, it's still there, and there are lessons to learn from it, but you don't need it top of mind clouding everything you do/think/dream. You can then open the box in a safe place, eg a counselling session, and take out one item to examine before tossing into a virtual garbage can.
I also find picking a bunch of flowers just for me is a potent gesture, and one I'm seeing my kids doing spontaneously too...
You are worthy of love

In response to: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Re: Parents never loved me, makes sense but just cant get over it.

Trust me @Simone thank you so much for sharing and thank you to all who have replied.

I know it wont seem like it to you simone but your post is inspirational

despite all you have been through, you are still here, still caring, sharing and loving.

Please take time for yourself, to slow down.

thank you for sharing

Wombat/Matt

ps: I'm feeling for you with your pup (cocker spaniel) ... I had to make the horrible trip with my mate Teddy (whippet) to the vets last december ... he had been my mate for 13 years ...his eyes had been going since he was about 11. So funny when he used to think the washing machine was the fridge, and when he had been sleeping and forgot what room he was in and bumped into a wall where the door should be. I say funny because he still had quality life. The time did come though, i was balling my eyes out but I knew it was his time, I held him while he went to sleep, before he left (and he was as blind as a bat) his eyes became very clear and I got a look of "thank you", it was very quick and he was peaceful.

It's one of the hardest things you need to do but I am sure Simone you will know the time.

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