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Oh dear @outlander

I do understand - look - you are not looking for pain medication so telling another doctor you are looking for a second or third appointment is normal - people have to do this at times - I have had to do it

When I had normal periods for years and suddenly they got really bad - and stayed bad - I found my own doctor unhelpful and I got the phone book and found another one and rang the staff there and told them I needed another opinion and I went there that day and the doctor I saw was very understanding and referred me to a surgeon straight away and yes - I had a hysterectomy that I needed badly

So yes - that is perfectly okay - to have second or third opinions

Also - the pain is real - you cannot imagine pain like that - but I have had enough pain myself to know that pain can make itself worse through stress - and not being understood nor taken seriously is going to add to the stress that is already over the top - so get that

All of the things that have happened to you have left a mark on you - left a wound - right from the beginning - in time this can heal but it will leave a scar - and what about surgery?

This must scare the daylights out of you - I know when I had to have my appendix out I was sh^t scared too - freaked out - but too young then to make up jokes and keep people laughing the way I do now

It takes us all our life-time to become as mature as we get - you are so young yet - you can hang onto my hand - you are not a baby - you are a woman who is very much alone and the only people who understand are a faceless bunch of women who are sharing with you and really care - possibly care more than anyone has before in your life

And it has not helped that you have had to do some much physical work when you have been so ill - yes - we are all told to get up and we will feel better - but in truth - there are times when we all need to take it easy

Care heaps

Dec

You can hold my hand anytime @outlander, scaly shrivelled old things that they are. Like Dec says, virtual squeezes don't cause any pain, but I still believe my Mum - if you virtually squeeze hard enough, we can take a little bit of it for you. I'm glad your getting into the Doctor tomorrow and think it's a good thing that it's before your exam, I can't imagine it would help you focus on your test if you still felt like this.

That's a complicated course your doing, I only read through a dozen pages or so of your study thread - it was way beyond me. Your a very intelligent young person! I hope your able to get some rest. I'm going to lay my body down soon. Good night Outlander, peace be with you

Hi @outlander

Your excuse for a mother needs to know - she needs to be told by a professional person who has investigated your situation and made a dx or is looking for one

Stop trying to study and try and get some rest - get the hot water bottles filled again and get as comfortable as you can - maybe watch TV and keep working your phone or IPAD - stay in touch if it helps

Yes - we care here - we can replace the part of you that needs the care and for ourselves - we need to care too - so we do

We have all felt like big babies at times - I have read this a lot in this forum - I have felt like it myself - so if you want to - feel like a big baby and hang onto my hand

Dec

Sounds like a plan - I have found the floor a safe and comfortable place at times

And only share what you are comfortable with

Dec

I'm a pretty tough old bird @outlander

Not at all prepared to give up on myself because of the pain - I expect a few more years of it yet

So I can take a bit more

Dec