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ive tried many different helplines and ive only actually been helped a few times but most of the time they just say to keep using the distractions and coping strategies that ive been using and to speak to my psychologist
wow what a great help- if i was doing that and it was helping me i wouldnt have rung now would i?
Neb can see your side,told to just walk I to a hospital but I couldn't do that.The stigma and shame of mental illness I always wish if there was a God he gave me a physical illness which is acceptable.I now hate wasting a doctor's appointment on it and after a long time don't want to use government money paying some idiot with so called qualifications to pretend to care.
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No @Neb this isn't a joke thread lol Yeah im terrified to go to a hospital and as soon as you meantiom MI its like your an alien
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Hey @Neb@Former-Member
I'm really sorry to hear that you haven't always had good experiences with seeking help from either the helplines or in person at a hospital. It's true that people do experience stigma in different ways, but I also know that some people have had positive experiences with seeking help at the right time. It's a real individual experience. I'm glad you were able to share these experiences.
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Yeah ive been going through a heap of shite too esp this month with the first year my nan not being here for her birthday and easter and now in a few days her date of death. Ive found a breast lump and as i was SA they want me to do a pelvic exam Im also studying and coming to the end of the course now and stressing about As well as not being comfortable on here and feeling closed off from everything i say and i have to watch when how and who i say it to as well as whats rhe reason for me to even say it
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@lil1 above msg
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CheerBearSenior Contributor
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I remember we had a conversation about helplines and how they are often designed either as crisis supports, referral services or very brief get through it tools until you can access more ongoing support @Former-Member. While I don't think it's ever ok to be left feeling worse after reaching out, I can see how important it is that these kinds of services are available for people who are in desperate need of them. Where I think that can leave some people though, is feeling pushed aside as helplines work to free up resources for people who either have nothing else in place or are at a very high risk of harm.
While helplines haven't been super helpful all the time for me, I think it's really important to share that there are positives in them, especially given how dire and negative this thread is seeming at the moment. A helpline is who I called when very unsafe. They put supports in place to intervene for safety. A helpline is also who is called when people need to be moved to safety, which is what happened for me. I accessed a helpline again then, when I had no other supports around to get me through a very bad time and they were helpful. I am certainly very glad the helpline people were available to speak to at those times. Now if I am struggling I will ask myself whether I can get through the next hours/days until I can access my ongoing supports. I ask myself what I can do to get through or get by and sort of go through my toolbox to see if anything stands out. I know that isn't right for everyone though and that sometimes people need some support to find that thing that helps, which is where I would hope a helpline can help.
I also think it's super important to remember that different helplines have different purposes and are targeted at different populations or situations. It can be very hard to navigate the maze of supports, including helplines, to work out what's the most appropriate and therefore the most likely to be helpful. For instance, there's a parent support helpline, an fv helpline, a women's information line, a legal support helpline and mental health helplines that I have numbers for. I know which one can help for when and why. I made this kind of list when i was feeling calm and thinking clearly. It's made it much easier to access supportive support when I am in that whirlpool. It might be helpful for you to do the same kind of thing one day when you have some calm too, to increase the chance that when you reach out it will be helpful.
Sorry for the novel and hope some of it makes sense. Also hope that doesn't sound dismissive. Just trying to share another perspective.
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Cheerbear
On my threads last night I did state the positive of helplines as I needed contact at times when I'm in crisis
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I believe help is successful if it works within a certain time ,like any other treatment,and if you get the right help.I also have great reservations towards antidepressants as I realise whilst they are the answer and quick fix for medical professionals,they can't help me in my problems such as family issues , unemployment,or assisting in helping me "cope"
Lil-caterpillar sorry you are going through so much,it sounds a really stressful time and it would be hard to cope with.Try not to be hard on yourself which you could say the same to me but I can understand the stress you are under.
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Eden1919Senior Contributor
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helplines have not helped me i have been told to go away, call another helpline and a bunch of other things that are just code for F-off. other times they just dont help if you are "safe" they just tell you to keep doing what you were already doing which is no help or if you are not "safe" they just call the police on you. it really is a no win situation.
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Thanks @CheerBear - yes I understand that helplines have a value as an immediate resource, maybe the issue here is training the staff. It is like any health service - the right people makes all the difference, be it doctors, nurses, psychiatrists or helpline operators. I've had excellent MH professionals and I've had absolute duds. @Neb - I agree with you about the AED, they don't want MH patients in there clogging up the wards and they're really not equipped to deal with them. As someone who has been on both sides of the fence in healthcare I have heard some truly atrocious things said about MH patients by staff, again it comes down to training and experience. Some are definitely better than others. @Former-Member - I'm sorry you're struggling at the moment, that's the cyclical nature of MI that we will often be doing well for long periods of tiime then it drags us back down again. Remember that you are cared about and with the right help and support life can and will improve.
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hi @CheerBear
thank you for your input, its appreciated. Most of the time I really done call them or contact them unless ive tried a few things that ive been taught to do, but they just keep telling me to keep doing them. I know that they cant do as much as a face to face counsellor but sometimes I wish they would give me a different strategy to try aside from just pushing it off saying just keep doing what works for you. To me thats helpful. There are soo many people out there that need the helplines more than I do so I try not to ring unless I really need to. Yes I have had some positive experiences with helplines but most of the time not. I think they do do a good job of helping others though and keeping them safe and sending other help if need to eb to keep you safe. I never thought of writing that list though cheerbear- would you help me make one for me?
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