Adventures on Turtle Island

Goodnight @Former-Member sleep well. 🙂

@CheerBear you know I think we both face the same problem with the exploration aspect of our types. I'm listening to your podcast.. it's just finishing.. and I see how we both can "jump to conclusions" so to speak if we are not careful.

In that you are so in touch with the feelings you absorb, you can project that and think others are feeling the same way, when they aren't.

I can do the same with the information I have, absorbed. I can project my knowledge base onto the other person and assume they know things they don't.

See what I mean? We need to diligently explore as this podcast says. To make sure we don't project.

You: what you are feeling vs what others might be feeling.

Me: What I know, vs what others might not know.

Because we both intuit what we perceive, we can make the mistake of assuming others are intuiting the same, when they actually aren't. You for feelings, me for information.

If you see what I mean... you will understand that the whole dynamic to avoid projection is a potential minefield for both of us. Sigh!

OK I'm about to listen to my podcast now... I'll tell you if you should disregard everything you heard or if it is accurate 😛

Have a good night and I shall see you tomorrow 🙂 Though I will probably post my appraisal of the podcast while you are snoozing. Have a good night. *waves*

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@CheerBear that's exactly the exploration side of it. That's the diligence I am referring to.

@CheerBear nah.. wikipedia isn't a reliable enough source for my type 😛

@CheerBear ok... I couldn't finish that podcast. It was so bizarre .. the frames, the meta frames, the hanging things on frames not building new frames.... sorry... but it made no sense to me in relation to how I think. Either they really don't understand INTPs or they have a really strange way of explaining what they are trying to portray.

So how you managed to finish it I don't know, because if my head was getting scrambled I would have thought yours would be. But maybe I was just trying too hard so it jumbled. Either way, they completely lost me.

@CheerBear wrote: (I missed this question earlier so answering it now)

"That then can lead to a challenge for INTPs to explain their thoughts without feeling like they are coming across as cold, insulting or analytical. A challenge it seems, is to connect with others in a meaningful way where things make sense and everyone is understood. What are your thoughts about this?"

hmmmm cheerbear, I don't think this is quite correct. When I go to places and mix with people, like on the beginning of that podcast, people flock to me. I don't get it because I don't really want it. So others seem to connect with me but I don't connect with them.

Online (text) is different because tone and smiles aren't seen so, in that way yes my words probably seem colder than intended because by nature I am analytical.

In real life, however, people ring me for advice, they seem to trust me because I am considered insightful and genuine, and that has always been the way. So in that respect the connections are there from others to me, but I don't feel a connection to them, or rarely.

Coincidently, I even found a quote relating to this and in fact and it is on that "picture" I mentioned to you. This is the quote:

• "You have a wide variety of interests that allows others to connect to you at various levels, however you rarely ever connect to them"

That gels with my experience more so than how they described it on that podcast.