hi @riverseal, that was very invalidating to me to me. There are definteily not that many members, taht would include everyone who ever accessed the forums since creation, many of which have left, been banned, or ceased accessing services. From a users perspective, there are about 30 ppl here. Wether that is new or old, is irrelevant, as I feel like theres a lot of ppl that come and introduce but dont return, which feels destabilising. That is a feeling I have, and wether its one you feel is legitimate or absolutely irrelevant, all feelings are valid :) Regardings no judgement or bias, as you mentioned moderation is human, and all humans have bias. Regarding the recovery club, although i said six sessions, this was based on calling sane's line itself, if its five and not six, i deeply apologise, but that was what they told me.