NDIS Changes

@tyme This is my academic area of expertise. I’m an expert on the legislation, NDIA policies and procedures and public policy. I’ve been there from the very start and prior to the NDIS too.

It would cost each state billions to provide the type of disability support services needed and that won’t happen. Instead, we will go back to severely underfunded services and it will be fragmented and people won’t get the supports they need on par with what the NDIS provides. We will be unsafe and stuck in our homes.

Minister Butler has announced significant changes that will do nothing to stop registered providers rorting but will cut 160,000 people with significant and permanent disabilities off NDIS and by 2030, 300,000 is the estimate. At this point we will lose choice and control and our independence.

We already are assessed by our functional capacity. This comes from occupational therapist reports who spend time with us in our homes and in community to assess our functional capacity. People with autism and psychosocial disabilities will likely be the hardest hit but others will be too.

Using AI to determine functional capacity will be an absolute disaster as it already has been in Aged Care and countries who tried it overseas.

The latest rounds of NDIS slashing are really a complete overhaul where the burden falls on people with disabilities and we will suffer.

It’s critical we fight these changes now. There’s already people doing that and we need the entire community on board.

This is a cost cutting exercise and the cuts are born by PWD while the providers will continue making huge profits. The Government through NDIA sets the price guide and this price guide is obscene. PWD should pay the same as any other person not more for the same product or service.

The biggest point here is that we need to fight this now.

@Dimity The AI model has dismally failed in Aged Care. I can totally understand your concern. We do not want any cuts to PWD on NDIS. They’re unnecessary, mean and discriminatory.

We will need to fight these changes. We’re already lobbying independents, local MP’s and Liberal Party. The Greens are already on our side. We’re waiting for Minister Butlers legislation and more in depth detail. The devil as they say is in the detail.

We can cut the $368 billion for useless AUKUS / submarines we are likeky never going to receive.

we can tax gas companies 25% bringing in $17-$18 billion in funding to tax payer per year. 56% of gas used by multinationals for export is not taxed one cent.

we can stop the billions in subsidies to fossil fuel multinationals including Gina Rhineheart.

we can tax the rich.

@megamike @I can understand your worry and I’m very worried too.

The reason the Government is being vague is so that the public who vote for them don’t really understand what they’re doing.

The announcements by Minister Butlers at the Press Club were extraordinarily disgusting and will do nothing towards registered provider fraud but rather cut funding from people who have significant and permanent disabilities from the NDIS with nothing in place on par to it.

For example, 160,000 to be cut but an estimated 300,000 by 2030 to be cut.

Significant cuts to social and community participation which even Minister Butler said would have “a material affect” ie we’re going to be stuck at home like we were before the NDIS was introduced. How will we get to appointments with doctors, specialist? How will be participate in the community? How will we live a normal life like everybody else?

The AI model to determine who gets kicked off and what those who stay have as funding is significantly flawed and will cause serious issues as it already has in Aged Care.

At the moment our functional capacity is assessed by University qualified and experienced occupational therapy. They meet us. See us in our homes and in public and assess our functional capacity. These reports then go to planners who put together a funding package. The only real purpose of licking out our specialists who know us is to reduce costs, reduce our funding and kick Peoplw off the scheme who should be on the scheme.

We’re waiting for the Minister to introduce the legislation so we can go through it in fine detail. These cuts absolutely must be stopped. We have to fight for it like we fought to get the NDIS in the first place. We cannot go back to the old system where people suffered badly and had no quality in life.

 is this a typo?

I get what @Cuddlebear is saying @DogMan79 . I don't think it is a typo. Right @Cuddlebear ?

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@Cuddlebear wrote:

@tyme This is my academic area of expertise. I’m an expert on the legislation, NDIA policies and procedures and public policy. I’ve been there from the very start and prior to the NDIS too.

It would cost each state billions to provide the type of disability support services needed and that won’t happen. Instead, we will go back to severely underfunded services and it will be fragmented and people won’t get the supports they need on par with what the NDIS provides. We will be unsafe and stuck in our homes.

Minister Butler has announced significant changes that will do nothing to stop registered providers rorting but will cut 160,000 people with significant and permanent disabilities off NDIS and by 2030, 300,000 is the estimate. At this point we will lose choice and control and our independence.

We already are assessed by our functional capacity. This comes from occupational therapist reports who spend time with us in our homes and in community to assess our functional capacity. People with autism and psychosocial disabilities will likely be the hardest hit but others will be too.

Using AI to determine functional capacity will be an absolute disaster as it already has been in Aged Care and countries who tried it overseas.

The latest rounds of NDIS slashing are really a complete overhaul where the burden falls on people with disabilities and we will suffer.

It’s critical we fight these changes now. There’s already people doing that and we need the entire community on board.

This is a cost cutting exercise and the cuts are born by PWD while the providers will continue making huge profits. The Government through NDIA sets the price guide and this price guide is obscene. PWD should pay the same as any other person not more for the same product or service.

The biggest point here is that we need to fight this now.

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Hey @Cuddlebear , but I wonder... if they 'kick' people off the scheme, surely, they need something else to replace the support, right? But the money is just reaped from somewhere else.

Well I just paid a $25k tax bill... so maybe that's where my money is going?

Do you mean 'kicking out' phrase @DogMan79

@DogMan79 Ah it was meant to be tagged for @tyme .

The States and Territories will not be bringing in funding to bridge the gap ie pre 2013. If any funding is allocated it will be severely underfunded, fragmented and out people’s lives and safety at risk. The reason we fought and win for the NDIS is so that PWD no longer were at risk and unsafe. So that we had what we actually needed. The States and Territories were not even consulted neither were PWD’s.

Thanks for the clarification @Cuddlebear . Makes sense. So the NDIS sort of brought all the care under the one umbrella so it could be more regulated than each council/state doing it's own thing.

Do they have a timeline yet of how these changes are going to roll out?

@tyme Unfortunately there’s no guarantee that an equal and adequately funded scheme will be introduced in States and Territories. Historically it hasn’t and it will cost billions and that’s not the type of money the States and Twrritiries can afford.

Your taxes and mine will in part go towards the additional $50 billion in defence and the $369 billion going to AUKAS for submarines that will likely never arrive and are old technology. Our taxes also fund multinational and billionaires in fossil fuel industry by billions and we don’t charge for 51% of gas exported by multinational companies out side of Australia.

our taxes should be funding a proper quality heakth system, schools, NDIS, aged care and other public services.