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Highly Functional, 'Highly Distressed': A person can be both!

Highly Functional, 'Highly Distressed': A person can be both!

I wanted to share with people something I wrote about 3 months ago. It was aimed at trying to encourage the people around me to rethink some of the things they say. It never really went anywhere and I wanted to see what others thought and encourage others to join in the conversation

One of the biggest challenges I face in my current stage of life is dealing with this imposed belief of 'Well your okay now, look at how far you have come'. On one hand this statement contains some well known truths. Such as, in comparison to how 'I used to be', I have a much deeper understanding of my life, my identity and my mental health. I have an extensive 'self care toolkit' that I tap into at multiple points throughout the day. I have a better support network, primarily consisting of practitioners and with a few select people that I can count on when I feel a need. Most importantly I am able to retain a high level of functionality when experiencing periods of distress. However on the other hand, there are still some times when things really get on top of me and my baseline manageable level of distress becomes quite extreme.

During these times it amazes me at how many people respond to me being open about my level of distress in a manner that almost seems to convey a level of offense to my admission of 'not coping/doing so well'. So much so that when I am finding it hard to cope, I place strict limitations on my audience as I am well aware that some people cannot seem to cope with the fact that in some moments in my life I cannot cope. I still routinely put up with comments from people who have the audacity of dismissing my experiences for reasons that I can only speculate. Comments such as;

'You shouldn't feel that way, look at what you have achieved...',

Yes I have achieved lots and will more than likely continue to do so for many years to come AND at certain points in time I find it very hard to cope.

'Don't be like that, your life is way better than it used to be...'

Yes this is very true I am in a way better space physically, financially, socially and even emotionally AND at certain points in time I find it hard to cope.

'I think you are overthinking this...'

I over think everything I have learned to live with this very well AND at times I find it very hard to cope.

And my personal favourite 'You just need to stop being so negative and try to be more positive...'

A person can be very negative AND take positive steps. Sure it is even better if a person can be positive and take positive steps, however sometimes feeling positive about myself and my life is not easy. AND in spite of this one of the biggest reasons I have achieved so much and am in a better physical, financial, social and emotional space is because in spite of 'being negative' I have tried to take positive steps where I can.

'You are just being melodramatic...' and or 'I thought you were done with this...' and or 'Why can't you just try to be happy...' and the list could go on and on.

I have one question to ask the people who respond, not just to me like this, but to others as well...

How exactly is speaking to people like this supposed to help them feel better about themselves, the people around them and their world?

One part of me acknowledges that many of these people mean well and I know from experience that it takes skill to respond to people who are living with a high level of distress. I acknowledge that listening well and responding is a skill that many people have not had the opportunity to develop as much as others. I acknowledge that many people rely on me for support so when I start to 'drop' they feel under-equipped because I am the one that they turn to when things are going south for them. So when I drop they feel stuck as I am their usual sounding board for advice.

On the other hand, one part of me finds it incredibly frustrating that I still feel like I am not allowed to speak honestly about what is going on in my life. I often get the intimate details of others lives and many only get a brief status update of mine because I know that their responses and 'support' will often leave me feeling worse. I am frustrated that so many people seem to view mental health as an 'on/off' switch or as 'you were unwell and now you are better'. For some people including myself mental ill-health is pervasive and potentially a life long experience . The affects of Complex Trauma are deep rooted and on going. At times this means that there are things going on in my life that I don't often talk about that are having a significantly negative impact. It is not that 'I am negative' and or 'miserable all the time' and or 'being ridiculous'. It is that at this particular point in time I am STRUGGLING with what is going on and I am TRYING to ask for support.

Notice how I have been using the word 'and' a lot...

I coined the phrase 'highly functional, highly distressed' years ago in a journal entry. The idea is that I can be both at the same time, not just one or the other. Instead of highly functional but highly distressed, I have learned through experience and support that I can be highly functional AND highly distressed. I can feel very flat, have no confidence or self worth, feel useless and incapable and still achieve many amazing things. I often do not exist in one emotional state at any one point in time as human beings are far to complex to just be one thing at any one point in time. I am often joyous and sad and funny and loud and quiet and energetic and flat et cetera. What this means is that I can live comfortably with distress at times and achieve many wonderful things and at other times I can struggle with my levels of distress and still achieve many things.

Where I really struggle is when I know that I need some support from people and I am met with disdain and or dismissed and or invalidated. By using the aforementioned statements that people like to say to me, I feel like you are saying that you don't really know much about me. When you say things like this then it says to me I don't pay attention to you enough to realise how much you have actually achieved and how you got there and what you have done to get there and the many skilled decisions you make to keep growing, developing and learning.

In many ways this is not your fault you couldn't possibly know many of the skills I have had to develop, the support I have needed, the experiences in my life that have left permanent emotional scars. For one I tend to keep this closely guarded as I know that people can respond quite badly to them and so I have learned to be cautious with who I open up to. I also tend to hide from people and from life when I am reaching a point where I am struggling to cope. Not to mention that one of the things I tend to do when I am really feeling distressed is to bury myself in things that keep me busy, so all you are left with is seeing someone who appears really motivated, outgoing and successful at what they do.

Having said this I have learned to hide well because I know from experience to keep my feelings hidden as I know full well how people can respond.

What I am asking is for you to think about what you are really saying. When people reach out to me I try hard not to dismiss there distress by pointing how good other things in their life are. Instead I listen to what is going on and offer advice and support that is relevant to that persons needs at that point in time, within the context that they are presenting it. So instead of shutting down conversation by dismissing my distress at that point in time, try asking what you can do to help. Often you will find that there is very little you can physically and or financially do and that is fine, because all I am asking for in most cases is a sounding board to bounce my thoughts off of to help me work through what is going on.

I acknowledge that everyone has the high and low points in life and that the two states are not mutually exclusive. I acknowledge that people can really struggle with some aspects of their life and be very successful in other areas of their life. I acknowledge that many people find it hard to cope and yet in their own way cope very well. I acknowledge that life is never simple and often involves many complex feelings, thoughts, emotions and experiences that people may never reveal and they may speak very openly about many other aspects of their life. I acknowledge that sometimes the best thing to do is to just sit and listen because sometimes that is all somebody is asking for at that point in time. And most importantly I ask you to consider these points and I ask that you all try to do the same.

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Re: Highly Functional, 'Highly Distressed': A person can be both!

Hi @Doc_Gonzo
I read your post of yesterday and it related to me so much. I have to go out now but I'll be back later today and chat more.
I struggle so much with expectations esp from my parents - something I'm not getting and I'm in a struggle. Chat later.

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Hi @Doc_Gonzo

I like your post on this topic. I think i fit this category sometimes... I function 'normally' you know, i work, do a good job at my job, have studied and done well at everything I've put my mind to (though I always feel i can and should do better), I interact with other people ok etc but some of the time its just such a fake exterior I'm not even sure who i am.

Like you, people often say i'm amazingly independent (taught at a young age no one was going to do anything for me/help me etc), resilient and brave... and like you say, i didn't develop any of that by choice and getting back up each time i've been knocked over has been nothing more than having to because life goes on (unfortunately at times!). and so being 'praised' for it feels kinda awful because i didn't actually 'do' anything...

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Re: Highly Functional, 'Highly Distressed': A person can be both!

Hi @Doc_Gonzo, @Former-Member

I guess I wanted to challenge your thinking about you not having to 'do' anything to be independent. I think you both made really good choices along the way which could have been quite different. Whilst I agree the reason is not one to celebrate or feel good about the life you've forged is. I'm also not trying to minimise that you had awful childhoods from the sounds of it. And you didn't deserve that, no child does. But along the way you've both forged out a path of achievement and high achievement at that and you had to 'do' things for that.

You have really challenged my thinking on a few things @Doc_Gonzo. I have spent my life trying very hard not to need anyone or stand out or be noticed. I've always put others needs first, they always seemed more important than mine. You've made me question and think about this.

And yes I'm a huge Brėne Brown fan. I've read her books and watched her talks and interviews. It was her who first inspired me to want to get well.

I hope today finds you well 💜🤗

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Re: Highly Functional, 'Highly Distressed': A person can be both!

I had to laugh @Former-Member when you said it was people who dont think much who thought you were overthinking. Thats my sense of it too.

Like @Former-Member and @Doc_Gonzo I became independent and thoughttful because there was noone there for me. It was not an active choice as such, but recognising that I could have some personal agancy over some thing in my life. I embraced that option.

Recently I was glad to notice a cousin post a quote by Margaret Mead,I would not have expected it from that person. Maybe its taken us all a long time to grow up and get some education. Its taken longer than 3 years for a bachelors, but the rewards that come with patient waiting are quiet and subtle, but worth something.

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Disclaimer: This has taken me a while to compose and I was hesitant to post it. But nonetheless here are my thoughts: The example I use just happens to come from this forum it could just have easily come from any other source it just happens to be the latest example I have available to me to illustrate my words.

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I fully identify with the independance…. when an ex bf left me with literally nothing… even down to taking my make-up (I assume for his new GF). When I asked him why he did what he did the only response I got was “you’re resilient, you’ll bounce back. I need it more” … wtf? But anyhow… yes I’ve been resilient and independent but it’s only because I have had to be and it took a huge commitment and effort to be that way, it certainly was far from the easy way out. I think that’s what others don’t get as well. They just think “oh yeah that Tooky, she’ll be fine, she always is”.

Ok now regarding your perception question @Doc_Gonzo. I wrote:

“I don't think the 'problem' is with me, necessarily, I think the problem is with their perception of who I should be.”

That’s a hard one. Very much associated with invalidation yes. I think many people tend to assume rather than think. I’ll use an example that occurred after I added that post to this thread. It’s an unrelated matter yet synchronistic to your question.

A mod contacted me knowing I was already in an anguished state. I felt I had been invalidated and I was angry. I had slept on it and woke up still feeling miffed but at least a little more resolved to the situation. Then I opened my laptop and in flew an email from one of the mods on here.

It contained an entirely baseless suggestion that dumbfounded me. Because I was in a very fragile state I shot back a strong response. A while later I finally received a reply saying that this mod was “sorry” their words had affected me that way and a suggestion to themselves, of an alternate approach they perhaps should/could have taken.


But… it stated… that the unfounded suggestion was made because it “was based more on why people usually email” . In other words it’s not actually a considered response, it’s more a lazy assumption of what might be being said. That is to say, it is mere perception of what might be going on rather than what actually is.

Then I was further invalidated because the whole issue was obviously just dropped. Haven’t heard another thing since.

I was left crying into the afternoon. Go figure! I was so mad, I was so hurt. I felt compounded invalidation, ignored and discarded. Usually things like that don’t affect me that badly, but I was fragile and it was from this site. A site I had just opened up to and posted my story on. The mod was well aware of this and even said in an opening paragraph how “brave” it was. Which only begs a whole different set of questions which are not relevant here, but are certainly raised.

Anyhow… that’s probably not the best example, but I think it at least shows how perception or confirmation bias, often overrides what is actually going on, even when there is absolutely no reason to have that bias confirmed.

In other words, people see what they want to rather than what is actually there.

Not sure if that clears or muddies the waters, but at the moment that’s the best I can do with it. Sorry. I don’t think that’s a very clear explanation now I read it back. But it's the best I can do at the moment.

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@Doc_Gonzo

need your help with this?

how do i let go of my expectations? from my parents, ,my siblings, my husband, my kids everyone in my life.

i struggle so much with expectations of my parents. not sure if you know my story. but basically 7 yrs ago i remembered i was sexually abused as a child; told my parents they abandoned me and don't want to know me.

i have these 'expectations' of how they should be; how parents should be towards their children when in need, when hurting, to support their child.

But mine don't - and i just can't get my head around this. i can't let go or i don't know how to let go.

you see the pain is too hard to bare; too harsh to even think about because it tears me apart.

i always think i am an okay person, able to work a few days a week, have three adult children still at home all educated; but i need help with expectations.

any suggestions @Doc_Gonzo

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@Former-Member I can relate to that feeling of being praised feeling kind of awful.

While I have improved my ability to accept compliments there are still areas that I don't openly dismiss the praise, I tend to just move on to the next part of the conversation without really acknowledging what was being said.

The idea of a 'fake exterior' is a feeling I am familiar with as well. For me I talk about professional self and personal self. Professional self is all the best bits of who I am for all to see. Well constructed to keep me looking competent and with it throughout the day.

Personal self is the more vulnerable aspects of who I am. This is where most of my emotions are stored ( i have written more in depth about this in a series of posts about dissociation on these forums). I switch on professional self when I am not at home so that I can interact with people well and then only allow the personal self to come out when I am at home, or in a trusted space such as my therapists office.

Both personalities are me in every sense of the word, it is professional self that enables me to succeed and keep moving, I have just severed the more vulnerable aspects of my personality from this particular facade.

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@Former-Member

Thank you for your thoughts, I always appreciate it when people join in on a conversation. I do acknowledge the choices I have made along the way, however this is very new thinking for me. I have been learning how to recognise the choices I have made even in situations where very little choices were available.

The biggest examples of that is how badly I have been treated for the way I look, Punk, goth , metalhead and yet in spite of the beatings, the bullying and the judgments (many of which I still put up with), I chose to look this way as it most resonated with how I saw myself. This is a pretty simple example and there are many others that I could name.

Much of this trauma has continued throughout my adult life. In fact I really have only been in a position where I have been less exposed to violence, bullying et cetera for about the last 3 years (hence complex trauma).

Uni being a really good example where so many people around me thought uni was a stupid idea and yet I decided to go anyway. Intially my reasons for going were not to get a degree, but to meet people. That didn't even work out close to what I would have liked as I made no long term friends at uni. Do I regret my decision, no! it has led me to a range of opportunities and experiences that I would never have had if I didn't and most of them have been overwhelmingly good

I am curios to no more about what you have begun to question in regards to 'I have spent my life trying very hard not to need anyone or stand out or be noticed. I've always put others needs first, they always seemed more important than mine'.

I for much of my life lived in a similar way. I was unimportant, and even would go as far as to say unnecessary (Nothin by name, nothin by nature). It took a long time for me to develop a sense of self worth and it is something that is still a work in progress.

These days I have learned to put myself first in the right ways (as in not being a selfish, self-centred a-hole) rather I look after myself and sometimes make the effort to look after those around me when they ask. (if they haven't burned too many bridges already). That is the other thing, learning limits and boundaries. Once again work in prgress

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Thank you for sharing that story @Former-Member.

That paints a clear and sad picture indeed.

I talk about these sorts of experiences as 'people going through motions', not really engaging with what is being said, more just repeating what they think should be said.

Almost like they have a checklist of responses to draw from that are linked to expressed feelings.
US: "I am feeling really low today"
Them: " You just need to think positively and you will feel better"

For them it is a case of 'case closed' problem solved nothing to see hear people, move along. For us we are left thinking wtf?

Yeah I am so low to the point of self harming (not actually happening just expressing some previous thoughts I have actually had in response to stuff that has been said to me), I can barely eat, I haven't showered, or cleaned, or done anything because I feel immobilised, but yeah I will just think my way out of this one by thinking happy , sugar coated, bubbly thoughts! MEH! lol

Over the years I have learned to let comments like that wash over me, however after a while it really grinds me down because I am very honest with people and have tried to reason, rationalise and educate people around me and it has gone in one ear and straight out the other and that is what makes me so mad.

Because they don't really listen and don't want to because they have to think about what they are saying and they don't really want to.

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Re: Highly Functional, 'Highly Distressed': A person can be both!

@BlueBay I will get back to you soon. As I have stated previously I drop in and out of these forums often. Mostly because I am very busy and or in a lot of pain ( I live with chronic pain). So I will try to respond to your questions as soon as I can.

I will start by saying that letting go of expectations is hard and frustrating work and one that requires guidance from someone who has the capacity to guide you through the process and offer opportunities to practice conversations, questions, responses et cetera. At least that is what it took for me and years of practice. Starting with me cutting off all communications with the people that were walking all over me.

It still hurts me very much to know that my mother is only ever interested in herself. even when she speaks about 'my mental health' it is always about her.

However I have learned to expect this and be prepared for it. I do not however expect her to show genuine concern for me or my welfare. She only cares about my successes so she can brag to others.

She was here on Friday night and we had a reasonably good night. There were several points where in my head i imagined throttling her because she just has no ability to think beyond her own experiences ( and not even to relate to others, only ever her and her alone). However I know this will always be this way so I expect nothing less.

I hope to give you a better response soon, however I am in pain and tired and have to get up early.
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