Neurofeedback

yes I know.. but I still don't get what you are saying. but everyone else does so that's the main thing. @Phoenix_Rising Maybe it's an inference thing that I'm seeing and making a leap somewhere, that's possible. I do tend to do that because I cut corners with my frameworks, something I imagine you are not prone to do.

I don't think I'm ever going to get what you are saying.. I've twisted my brain in every way and I can't see the difference.

So I'm just going back to the definition because that is quite likely something we can both work with.

Neuroplasticity: The brain's ability to reorganize itself by forming new neural connections throughout life.

oh and another thing @Phoenix_Rising I tend to see the forest and not bother with the individual leaves... I go from roots to forest, the rest in between is just a pathway from A to B. and that's typical of my INTPness, apparently.

Now there's a thought... how the heck would an aspie be an INTP when one is detail and the other is problem - solution, in bewteen doesn't matter. For me, It'd take too long to do it your way.

I worked with someone like that once actually. We got along great, but I could never work out his way of doing things the long way.. and he could never get his head around how I just instantly came up with the answer he eventually did.

The way he worked things out fascinated me and vice versa. I'm sure your way would fascinate too, if we ever had a chance to discuss it. Though my way might just send your head into one huge muddle.

@Spookytookims Hee hee, yes things take me a looooooong time - have I mentioned that my 4 year degree took me 12 years!!!!! Well I AM a turtle you know! And yes, you are correct, I don't do inferences. Let's have another go at trying to get on the same wavelength - which is kind-of funny given we are on my neurofeedback thread...

"Neuroplasticity: The brain's ability to reorganize itself by forming new neural connections throughout life." Correct. On this we agree!

You then said in your other post that neurofeedback was the electronic form of neuroplasticity. This is not right because, as per your definition above, neuroplasticity is a characteristic of THE BRAIN. Here, let me think of an analogy...um...ok, I think I've got one...

A characteristic of Phoenix_Rising is her giggliness. Techniques for making Phoenix_Rising giggle include posting funny pictures, creating muddling conversations like this one, and writing stories about her being stuck on an island where she is clearly the only sane one around. Now...those three techniques have the effect of making Phoenix_Rising giggle, but they themselves are not sorts of giggliness. Likewise, the brain has the characteristic of neuroplasticity. Techniques for making the brain form new neural connections include neurofeedback, EMDR and mindfulness. These three techniques have the effect of changing the brain, but they themselves are not sorts of neuroplasticity.

How's that @Spookytookims? You do know of course that I expect this conversation to somehow morph into a storyline on Turtle Island, right?

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I had my neurofeedback session today. I have had a bit of a challenging day so I wasn't in the calmest state when I went in. And then, before we got started, another psychologist opened the door thinking the room was empty. I don't do surprises well and that was enough to send me into the foetal position, cuddling my toy turtle (who always comes along) and rocking. However, neurofeedback dude (W) navigated the situation well and we pressed on.

Given my slightly scrambled brain today, we only did eyes-closed exercises. These involve me listening to music. The music slows and becomes static-y when my brain isn't doing what it's supposed to. I didn't manage to get the music playing super well at any point but W said I did ok.

W got me to do a new thing today. I had to sit with my hands palm-up on my legs - like people often do when they meditate. Apparently, this is the most relaxed position because when we have our hands palm-down, we tend to unconsiously press them into our legs when we are tense. Other tense postures are clenching your fists or, in my case, holding my toy turtle in a death grip. My homework for this week is to spend three minutes sitting still with my hands palm-up each morning. Three minutes - I can do that! Interestingly, W specifically said not to worry about what my brain is doing when I'm doing this exercise. The exercise is purely about relaxing the body. The idea is that we experience distress/tension/anxiety in our body first and then the brain catches up. Relaxed body = relaxed brain.

That's all I have to report. I think everyone should try this three-minute exercise every day for the week. If I can sit still for three minutes without rocking or cuddling my toy turtle, I just know that you can do the exercise too.

sigh...ok I'm loling for real Phoenix... I love the way you think.... honestly I readly do!!

Let me think about this.. I'm in the forest.. you are asking me to go back and look at the leaves... so give me a bit of time and I'll think how best to answer. @Phoenix_Rising

@CheerBearseems to think it may be a noun/verb english rule thing.... I don't quite see that atm but that could be part of it.... but I'm copying your post and I am really going to study it properly ok?

Because I really really want to try to work from that definition and I'm still worried inference is the "problem" BUT if it is, I should be able to work around it, if it's not. I won't be able to..... so ok.... leave it with me for now. 🙂

oops bad timing.... everyone else ignore the above post from me please!! Was talking to Phoenix about something else! Sorry!!!

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@utopia wrote:
Am enjoying sitting back and reading through the definition of neuroplasticity and where and how neurofeedback fits in. An entertaining read. Lol
@Spookytookims & @Phoenix_Rising

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Giggle. @utopiaThis is one of those times when I'm not even trying to be funny. You reminded me of some occassions when my uni counsellor would be almost falling off her chair laughing and I was like "K why are you laughing, I'm not trying to be funny," and she would start laughing even more and tell me "I know, that's what makes it so funny."

@Spookytookims ROFL. Our posts crossed! I was just telling Utopia how I wasn't trying to be funny and now you are ROFL too!!!!! I think @CheerBear is on the right track with it being a grammatical thing.