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General chit chat

Hi@Faith-and-Hope, @utopia, @Mazarita

I'm still not very good at 'navagating' this site, maybe that's why I kept trying 'instant' chat sites - they seemed easier. But I like that messages can be checked, that it's not instant feels like some sort of barrier against instant shock I suppose - though I know this is a public Internet site so anyone can use it. I also think, though I hate the term Mental Illness, as I think it takes all the physical out of it, that the people that cause trauma probably suffer from it, so they would have just as much right to use it. But I feel a bit like typing I think, so I thought I might just blurb a little?
I've went away for a few days. I go every month. I visit the center of my Universe 🙂 The one person who has been there with/for me, their whole life & I believe will remain that way until I die 🙂 . . . & quite the large Family they have provided for me to share in 🙂 I go from, it almost seems like another Planet sometimes, my life is very quiet; to the center of my Universe, which includes 5 grand-children ranging in age from almost 2 to, going on 18; then there's the partner, the partners Parents and a large variety of friends 🙂 I often find myself thinking 'alein sound dimension' - there's so much noise on so many different levels! Every single one of them has every gadget known to mankind, and most of those gadgets make noise! And my World is a lot calmer, with a lot less going on - we're usually driving in the car, taking children to school, doing whatever shopping is necessary for the day in time for whatever seemingly endless appointment is due, . . . by the time my alarm goes off to make sure I wake up in time to get tired in time to go to sleep in time 😄 There's no way I could keep that pace up anymore! After a few days I find myself almost running away with my tail between my legs 🙂 But it's the perfect balance really, I do spend a lot of time alone - apart from my 3 furry, four-legged friends; but I am extremely lucky, my bond with my only child is of a strength I can't see breaking; I get a phone call or text every night & welcomed by a dozen open arms and smiling faces every month. I am lucky, I have a good life. Well, I think life is just a word, neither good nor bad. I have good experiences and I am happy 🙂

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Yes @Mazarita, trying to get him to see the doctor again but he will have to be reaccessed all over again -- this is what stopping him xx

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That sounds good. Hope he finds the will to get there soon, @Shaz51, for the both of you. ox

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Hello @Former-Member

Thank you for all your beautiful, inspirational, positive words There are not enough of them in this World. You seem to me to have the purest form of love, coming from a truely pure heart and I am honoured to be receiving it from you

There are many, many people with malfunctions in thier brains - such a complicated organ, giving rise to so many different ailments. I think people like that Doctor you went to, have malfunctions in thier brains, slight enough that it's not noticed, not by them or general society; but the symtoms are those people being negative.

I have a lot of hate and anger, imbedded deep inside me, I have spent my life trying to contain it. And beautiful, truthful, caring words strengthen my ability to do so. You give me strenght my Sister Thank-you 😄

I'm very glad to hear you got some much needed sleep, and even more joyful to hear of your good report from the GP!:D I wish you didn't have pain, but hope the knowledge that it's not getting worse is comforting and eases your mind. The body is an amazing thing, all it wants to do is heal 🙂 Pain killers and pain, it's a bit like the horse and carriage, the horse is the pain and the carriage the medications needed to manage it. As the pain lessens, there doesn't need to be as much in the carriage, until eventually it can be detatched - maybe it might need a couple of saddle bags but that horse will have a lot more freedom of movement when it's better 🙂 Just like you slowly turning from a Human 'bean', back into a Human Being 🙂

Freely giving you my love as I freely admit to cherishing yours

Niqua

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Hello Dec,

I just wanted to Thank-you for your beautiful words in response to my 'Love' post. I've always struggled with love, it doesn't really surprise me - many times in my life those that supposedly loved me . . . harmed me. So I think I 'learnt' that love was a negative thing, but over my life-time I started looking at it differently; I began to realize that love and sex were 2 totally different things. But even the love of friends and in particular family, has always ended up in a mess. I'm no Psychiatrist, but I imagine if a child has a Father with brain process problems, that's very negative towards them and a Mother with brain process problems that makes it impossible for them to protect that child - it's going to muck with that childes mind. I know your Mother was not good to you and that your Father could not stop her, so in a way I think we may have had similar upbringings, not the same of course, but I think I identify with you in many ways.

I think your love is pure. That you would not only go into areas with street people, but speak with them, truly look at them as fellow Human Beings - that proves the purity of your love to me. You may not bandy it about, I'm not sure if you even type the words . . . you don't have to - the sorrow that you have been through and the fact that you are still able to support people like me though communicating through places like this - well to me it shows your love is overflowing

I understand liking loneliness, for me it felt like a physical pain for years and somewhere along the line it faded in it's sting and I began to enjoy time alone. I really enjoyed being the leader of my own life, being able to make all of my own decisions - I still do, but I often feel almost like I'm being compressed by all the nothingness. Something this Forum has alleviated for me 🙂 It is another thing I identify with you over and I would love to hear about your experience with it

I'm sorry about the wall between you and your siblings, I have the same {another identifying point}, although I only have 2 left - both Sisters . . . I think I am too much for them. I think our society teaches us from day dot, that our Family members are our greatest supports . . . and I think it's a lie! I believe our Family memebers are just Human Beings, with the same ability to harm or help as every other Human Being. Just because someone is a Family member doesn't necessarily mean they will be good, just as my brain tells me, just because someone is a stranger doesn't necessarily mean they will be bad. But I think the truth is my brain has decided, if it's Human don't trust it!!!

"Does the city protect us by closing us in or closing them out"

I think my walls protect me by closing them out 😉

I feel okay @Owlunar, and your more than just okay in my opinion

Niqua

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If I had to speak now I could not. I am lost for words after what I just read @Former-Member you have so much wisdom & insight GodTruely used you in a Big way to Bless me Amen!
Totally unexpected & lovingly received 🙂 xo
Loneliness & pain led me to join in here in the Forum.
The reasons for people to be a part of this community is to support each other share the good & the bad & feel the Love. Pure Love is the opposite to destructive hate. Oil & water do not mix, this Forum has so much Love in it I honestly have not experienced this much love & strength of mind & character in any other web site that I know of!
I am humbled in a beautiful & very sincere way thank you @Former-Member for being you.
I love you 4 ever!
Your Sister Donna (Bella)
XXXOOO 🙂

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Good morning, Niqua and all in this thread. Hope it's a good day for everyone.

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Hi Niqua

Thanks for your wonderful response to my message about love - and that you think my love is pure. I had never thought about it before but maybe it has been purified through fire - my life was anything but untroubled for many years and something good must have come out of it because I am still here

My going to the places where only the homeless people go - oh how I remember those days and those people - and how I learned to trust them and trust me. Of course the bags of food helped but I did what ever I could for my son except enable him - I thought I have over-invested myself in him but my uncle told me that no one could love anyone too much - and he would know - but those people were real - they were honest with me - maybe because I was honest with him

How many people would go into a flop where the homeless shelter to hear something about someone they love - actually where I went was only outside - a place near the station and another under a bridge - but for some time - years - they would come up and speak to me in the street - there was something incredibly humbling in doing that - but there is a strong Biblical presence in talking to the outcast - however they have become outcast - and my son had a good home but chose to be a homeless person - so I something wonder. Who will attend the Wedding Feast?

My father did eventually overcome my mother - but that was a long time ago - I wrote to him and told him the truth about certain things and long story short - he wanted me back in the family and until he died I did attend events in my parents' home - but only with my daughter - Dad - who had lost his vision - would hold onto my sleeve and keep me where he could see me and no one ever asked me to move away from him and we could talk about the past - and he loved that - and I think I was the only person who would talk with him about what his short term memory loss had not taken from him.

But after he died my toxic sister decided it was time to pull her weight and drag back the past - and I have no idea what it was all about because I was never told much - but now I don't have anything to do with my siblings - and I am better of without them

But it has taken a long time to get here - I have felt the sting of loneliness - learning to like being alone has its roots back in my marriage when we were two people living in the same house - and yes - you are right - love and sex are not the same thing - my then-h felt that he needed some affection - that was how he saw sex and it had become mechanical - a long time before I locked my bedroom door - it's lonely living with the mate with whom I had been great friends but alas - he found his own way to lacking "affection" - his silence and morose behaviour sent me looking for a social life away from him - so when we did finally seperate I had my own social life and I learned to live alone walking along the isolated beach on cold January evenings that seemed to last forever and found myself - and never lost myself - and how to share how that was processed - I would if I could but I think I had to accept who I was and I do not tolerate anyone trying to enforce themselves on my behaviour

When I still had young children I told my mother I was emancipated and she laughed - of course she never was but also - she never understood what that meant and that emanicipation is a state of mind rather than circumstances

Something I have found about sharing on these forums - yes - one thing is that people here are so often trapped in their feelings of not being worthwhile - or being too much for other people - I understand that - I felt like that for a long time until I broke out of that shell and my kids were still young then - that was when I went back to school and continued for a long time - people - including my mother - tried to make me stop but I continued - and if I had a gift for so many people here - including yourself - it's that we are all worthwhile people and to shake away the concept driven into us by our mothers from an early age - we were once small helpless children whose mothers tried to force into a mould - and I get it - I was there once - but I woke up one morning and decided it was enough - I was not going to spend my life doing nothing but care for a house and the people in it and be unhappy - I still cared for the house and the people in it but I put my own interests first after breakfast, after dinner, after work - when I got up when I pleased, worked at a job I liked and was qualified for, cooked meals that pleased me and spent my evenings studying -

So I think there is a balance here somewhere and it is doing things for other people AFTER we have considered how we fit into the programme - and it is so hard - it really is so hard - but for years and years keeping away from my family of origin meant I could keep away from the mixed messages from my mother

You are right that society teaches us that blood is thicker than water - and this is not always true - people with whom we share a home will want us to be what they think we should be even if that makes no sense to us at all - and I have had a lot of therapy but as far as I know - this was not something my family had so yes - I was the one who did the changing and they did not - how I see this repeated here over and over again - this is something the forum has has helped me with

When we seek therapy we change - but those around us who do not have therapy do not change and they are likely to resent the changes we make and try to make us unhappy the way we were

Alas - we may never be really happy and I wonder if that's the main thing in life - but here's my idea - I would rather be unhappy on my own terms that be unhappy because other people do not like the way I am

I wonder if this makes sense - I read so much unhappiness here and people might want to know why I stay - that's easy to answer - I am used to my own fragile state and I have my really bad moments - I can just tell people here I am having an anniversary or whatever it is - and people here understand and don't try to change me. I also bring a gift of life - people are worth so much more than they feel they are and I want to tell them that knowing that it will never be enough but still - I know it takes thousands of repetitions of "I think you are great" to overcome the bad mother-messages that have already been taken to heart -

But I try

Niqua - I know I am okay - really I walk between the light and the shadows of my life - the shadows give the light relief and I see it better and the light gives the shadows definition and make them less scary

I truly believe you are a worthwhile person - I believe the people in the forum a worthwhile people

Sometimes I open up like a flower as I have done here - it is a worthwhile thing to have shadows in my past - I have learned to accept them -

Dec

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Hello @Former-Member I've only just discovered your you! 🙂 I met another Bella when I noticed your vacation, but I'm still thrilled to 'see' you 😄

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Hi @Former-Member 👋💜💕
Lovely to see you.
Sorry I haven't mentioned to all that it's "me" 😂
I hide on certain threads to avoid feeling overwhelmed and stressed.
So many people on the forums now. It's hard to keep up with everyone. And I hate to unintentionally leave people out.
Not too good today. Ear/head ache etc...
How are you?
I might not be on alot today.

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No need to be sorry @Former-Member 🙂 I'm just glad your ok-ish. I changed my settings and try not to click on too many threads for the very same reason 😉

Sorry to hear about you ear/head ache, hope you can rest. I've got a mouth/face ache, considering I had a tooth removed not so long ago . . . I think I'm going to have to go through the whole process again! . . . but I'm fine, just feral and old 😄

Take care, sending love and healing

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