Concepts about brain resistance to change - Dr. Joe Dispenza

I know that "nothing" feeling all too well @PeppyPatti. While others can tell us that we are something and that they value us it can be so hard to believe it. Like @Oaktree said, you are valued here. Your insights and lovely conversation are at the VERY LEAST valuable and appreciated by us.

I relate to the "learning how to feel" thing SO MUCH! I spent about a decade of my life in a numb, apathetic, foggy state. I didn't feel many emotions at all. Looking back it was actually quite scary to think I didn't feel anything (or at least not much). I am so glad that you're slowly learning how to feel. "Slowly" is probably very important. Don't want to shock the system.

I'm also neurodivergent, and proud 😊

I am such a fan of your husband right now. I love how he sees how beautiful it is for you to ask the questions that no one else asks. I do the same. I ask "why" to everything, mostly just to learn and understand things better.

I'm so sorry about your Mum. It's wild how we often go back to the headspace of the little inner child when we see our parents. Someone told me recently to be the parent to my inner child that she didn't have growing up. I'm not sure exactly how to do this, but I guess I'm starting with compassion for myself. The words we use to speak to ourselves really do make a difference ♥️

@0ddsidian @Oaktree make that triplets lol!

My bedroom is a mess, I have a floordrobe because I don't have enough room for everything, yet I don't throw anything out or donate to an op shop.

I am wary of a lot of articles about mental health but I will try and listen to this one. I would love to be able to retrain my brain to be motivated.

@0ddsidian @PeppyPatti @Oaktree I guess I don't know where I fit in. I know my fear of rejection comes from my dad leaving us when I was around 5, other than that though I had a wonderful childhood with no traumatic events.

I have never had the feeling of being numb, if anything sometimes I think I feel too much. Although I was diagnosed with depression 25 years ago, and then bipolar 2 15 years ago it has only been the last 3 years where my life has collapsed in on itself. Before that I was a functioning human being, sociable and motivated.

Is it menopause added to mental illness, or something else? The betrayal of someone who was like my other half in a non romantic way, the loss of my Godchildren who I loved and had cared for for over 8 years?

And how do I walk out of the crash that is my current existence and get back to being whole again?

Apologies if this is the wrong forum for my post, feel free to edit/delete if inappropriate xo

Oh my @ENKELI of course you write in with all the right stuff.

I'm finding it very difficult to watch the Joe Dispenza video .......

@ccau_82 @Oaktree @0ddsidian it means the world to me your compliments on me. Thankyou very much.

@0ddsidian - I had my help with the therapist. I WAS unsure of my identity and at 17 years old , I fell into Psychiatrists then to Psychotherapists. I don't know if this will help @0ddsidian we are all so different - our stories - what helps you is probably not going to help someone else like say me where I feel all my past push has disappeared.

1: meditation

2: self reflection - ( how am I feeling right now )

https://youtu.be/DW0G5u1uziM?si=9Dho3sd9SA5s55fj

3. Guided meditation.

I believe in you.

A dialogue not a monologue

Pia Mellody

Stephanie Dowrick " Intimacy and Solitude "

@ENKELI I love your writing.

Do you have any other brothers and sisters ?

Omg @ccau_82

I'm a little in love with your message. How do you know this ?

the polyvagal theory and triune brain model:

• Gut knowledge = Ancient survival wisdom (reptilian brain/vagus nerve)
• Heart knowledge = Emotional/relational wisdom (limbic system)
• Head knowledge = Rational processing (neocortex)

Can I ask you a question ? Is this why when you get say -----

Gut withdrawals for weeks and weeks ? Is there anything to be said about this ?

@ENKELI @0ddsidian @Oaktree @yggdrasil @TAB @Ainjoule @Jynx

@PeppyPatti ~ Thank you - this is exactly the kind of conversation that lights me up!

Yes, polyvagal theory is one of my deepest passions! I've been studying it for years and it's completely transformed how I understand my own nervous system.Your gut withdrawal question is SO spot on.....what you're describing sounds like what we call "dorsal vagal shutdown" - when your nervous system has been in fight/flight for too long, it can flip into this protective withdrawal state. Your gut literally goes offline because your body is saying "we need to conserve all energy for survival."

Some things that can help:

~ Gentle movement (even just swaying)

~ Warm liquids and easily digestible foods

~ Safe social connection (like these conversations!)

~ Humming, singing, or gentle vocalidation

~ Very slow, re-engagement with your body's wisdom

Once your nervous system feels safe again, your digestive wisdom usually comes back online.

Have you noticed any patterns with what tends to send you into that withdrawal state? And more importantly - what helps you feel safe enough to come back?(I could talk about this stuff for hours - thank you for opening this conversation!)

Oh God @ccau_82

Where do I start ?

I'm mindful of people like @Oaktree @Glisten @TAB @0ddsidian @tyme @Abner @Ainjoule @Meowmy

@Appleblossom @Bunniekins @StuF

Sorry if I forgot your name ---

Who have supported me through

Iv noticed for years I get a bad gut for WEEKS of cramps and diaroheahh but because my life has been so chaotic - iv never dealt with it. At 57 I can.

I was hit by car - most people know & 40 years ago - clinically dead 7 times, coma 6 weeks. Narcassistic borderline mother & narc. step Dad. Only just cut contact.

I have used Psychotherapy for many many years- I cleaned houses to pay - but something tough happened yesterday --

I wrote into team sane last night because I always seem to be in this drama don't want to bother anyone.

The Joe Dispenza is being listened to. I feel that I need to listen to it. It might be a missing link.

In therapy, I connected with lost child. Trauma. It's very deep.

@ENKELI It always surprises me how I can have SO MANY items of clothing on my floordrobe but still have so many items of clothing in my actual wardrobe and drawers.

I try to go through my clothes at least twice a year and donate (almost) anything that I haven't worn in the last two years. I know it's hard for a lot of people to get rid of stuff though. I think growing up as a military child and having to move so frequently actually means that I'm better at letting items go. Silver lining, I guess 😂

I absolutely agree about us all being different, @PeppyPatti. We're all humans having human experiences, regardless of the diagnosis we've been given or where we're at in life. Remembering this helps me to be kind and compassionate towards myself and others. It also helps me when it comes to connecting with others. I might not have the same life experiences as someone, but they're a human ♥️

I do want to stress that you absolutely aren't bothering anyone. I hope you're okay after whatever tough thing happened yesterday. Keep reaching out to the community and asking for support!

@0ddsidian that is interesting. For my brother and I being army brats we saw things differently. Don't bother making strong friendships, you're only going to move in 6, 12 months' time.

For me the hoarder gene runs strong on the maternal side, plus growing up poor we never had much so I don't know if that has an affect on why I can't get rid of things. It probably does.

I'm glad you got a benefit from being a military brat, my silver lining is I got to see more of Australia than I would have otherwise.

When I was living with ex best friend I didn't have a problem with making sure I kept my rooms tidy. When I first moved back into my own home I was good at keeping things tidy. It's just the last year or so that I have no motivation.