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Managing thoughts of suicide & self-harm

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I figure it's better to introduce my challenges here than in a welcome. Hopefully only people willing to hear about SI will venture here.

TW: Suicidal Ideation

Content/trigger warning

I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 12. I don't remember much of life before this time. I'm aware there are times that I haven't though as much about suicide as others, but it's always been a "yes please, that would be my preference" even during the better times.

Why am I still alive then? For two reasons:

- the emotional pain it would cause to very close family.

- the physical pain of accessible methods, and the risks of non-fatal attempts causing lifelong physical impairments.

How do I keep myself going all these years?

By focusing on how I can benefit other people's lives instead. If I'm going to put up with life, it may as well be beneficial to someone.

And to help me keep life less monotonous I look for 'interesting' things - quirky people, exploring foreign countries/cultures, trying new foods (even if i dont think I'll like them). I've never been a status-quo person.

I explain to MH supports that when life is not distressing I can carry on without seriously considering suicide as a possible option. I can say "hello there thought, I hear you but I have chosen not to act on it, things are OK". But when something sets things off kilter, its a pretty quick track back to "why am I still doing this? Do I really still have the same commitment to living? And why, for whom? Why can't I be permitted to die if that's what I want for myself?"

With decades of this under my belt, I have the ability to sit with feelings of extreme distress. And the courage to text or call someone if I need to - and I'm getting a little better at doing this *before* it gets too extreme, but I still hesitate because I don't want to burden others and the frequency of it happening during those unbalanced times is too often. I've persuaded myself a few times recently to instead call a crisis line, but waiting 30-45min in a queue can sometimes exacerbate the thoughts, and sometimes the calls might help dissipate the feelings (if i called early enough) but other times I feel worse after because of course they're going to try to give some positive outlook for the future, but it grates on me because deep down I dont want a future at all. Its actually refreshing when someone acknowledges that not liking/wanting life is OK - and instead just tries to look at how to rebalance the scales to help me cope with continuing to live despite not wanting to.

I'm not sure how un/common my way of thinking is. So much about suicide prevention is focused on short-term distress tolerance or "fixable" problems (eg situations).

What do I need from the community here...?

To be heard? To know if anyone else out there has a long enduring preference to die even when they aren't feeling active distress? And if so, has anything helped them longterm to shift that thinking?

If anyone knows of any practitioners who *specialise* in chronic SI since a young age, I'd really love to know who (if there is a way someone is allowed to??). I've tried Google searching and using online psych directories and reading bio's. I've seen many psychologists and psychiatrists in the past who haven't been able to help me shift this (even if theyve helped in other ways).

I do wonder if my neural networks for positive emotional may not have fully developed or may have atrophied due to the young age and length of time. I genuinely do not know what being happy feels like, I do not have any memory that I recall as being "happy" or joy, and I suspect this makes recovery much harder.

Im ok at the moment. Im safe. But it is exhausting.

Apologies this post is quite a bit too long.

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In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Just something I’ve noticed @AlwaysMyself

can be easy to do things without realising

all good

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

That makes sense @Flutterbug9 , because most of the time when I post about how I feel it's because I am annoyed/upset/frustrated by something. 😉. I find it harder to post about how I feel when it is the chronic feeling and thoughts (not the snowball) - because, well, what to say? In those cases there is nothing that I can see people can do, so in those cases I am more likely to try to focus on supporting others or a social thread to distract myself. 😊. And when things are feeling really bad but I haven't had any specific trigger/snowball, then is when I really can't say anything much here because I can't talk here about what is going through my mind at those times, even though it is exactly what helps me cope by talking about it openly to people who understand it and not in a 1-hour-limited phone call to someone who doesn't know anything about my and isn't trained/experienced/able to how to listen to these thoughts without judgement or without over-reacting or without assuming that I am anxious and need to "ground" or calm myself or that can understand/remember that when I say "I don't experience positive emotions or have any memory of what happiness is" that it really isn't helpful to then say "think about things you enjoy or make you happy.." or "hope you find some joy in something this afternoon", etc etc.

Oops that turned into a rant unintentionally 🤣. My days are filled with trying to distract me from thinking about life - unless I am somewhere that is appropriate to talk about it like my counsellor or support group.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Didn’t mean to stand on toes or cause ripples, if that’s what’s happened.

I snowball at times. I know I do.

Am aware some people don’t know or realise they do.

Was comment about observation as didn’t know if you were aware or not.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

No toes were stepped on in the production of this thread @Flutterbug9 lol. I appreciate your comment and questions. 😊 🤗

Hows it going for you today?

I am wondering if things are hard today for you currently? (I am only wondering because I know it's super easy to internalise feeling you have said something "wrong" when not feeling great. And I repeat you have NOT said anything wrong, but I get the sense you feel you may have.)

Either way you get my love and care being sent over now. 🙂

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

My way of distancing before I know risk saying something I will regret @AlwaysMyself

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

If you did ever saying anything hurtful @Flutterbug9 , I'd still forgive you. 😊

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

hello @AlwaysMyself , @Flutterbug9 , @Cuddlebear 😍

how are you going today xx

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hi @Shaz51 😊 I'm teetering on the fence this evening lol. Forum has been a good distraction 🙂 to avoid how I am feeling because I know if I let myself look under that hood its going to be a dark night lol - which is why I logged on for the coffee chat a few hours ago lol.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

how are your darling fur babies @AlwaysMyself 😍

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

They are happy because they have just had dinner (and now bonus carrot) @Shaz51 . Carrot is good for their fur coats I've been told by the breeder years ago when my girl's coat was brittle and dry (changing kibble brand helped). They also got to go to the dog park this morning with the dog walker before it got hot, so they have been good sleepy pups.

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