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Managing thoughts of suicide & self-harm

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I figure it's better to introduce my challenges here than in a welcome. Hopefully only people willing to hear about SI will venture here.

TW: Suicidal Ideation

Content/trigger warning

I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 12. I don't remember much of life before this time. I'm aware there are times that I haven't though as much about suicide as others, but it's always been a "yes please, that would be my preference" even during the better times.

Why am I still alive then? For two reasons:

- the emotional pain it would cause to very close family.

- the physical pain of accessible methods, and the risks of non-fatal attempts causing lifelong physical impairments.

How do I keep myself going all these years?

By focusing on how I can benefit other people's lives instead. If I'm going to put up with life, it may as well be beneficial to someone.

And to help me keep life less monotonous I look for 'interesting' things - quirky people, exploring foreign countries/cultures, trying new foods (even if i dont think I'll like them). I've never been a status-quo person.

I explain to MH supports that when life is not distressing I can carry on without seriously considering suicide as a possible option. I can say "hello there thought, I hear you but I have chosen not to act on it, things are OK". But when something sets things off kilter, its a pretty quick track back to "why am I still doing this? Do I really still have the same commitment to living? And why, for whom? Why can't I be permitted to die if that's what I want for myself?"

With decades of this under my belt, I have the ability to sit with feelings of extreme distress. And the courage to text or call someone if I need to - and I'm getting a little better at doing this *before* it gets too extreme, but I still hesitate because I don't want to burden others and the frequency of it happening during those unbalanced times is too often. I've persuaded myself a few times recently to instead call a crisis line, but waiting 30-45min in a queue can sometimes exacerbate the thoughts, and sometimes the calls might help dissipate the feelings (if i called early enough) but other times I feel worse after because of course they're going to try to give some positive outlook for the future, but it grates on me because deep down I dont want a future at all. Its actually refreshing when someone acknowledges that not liking/wanting life is OK - and instead just tries to look at how to rebalance the scales to help me cope with continuing to live despite not wanting to.

I'm not sure how un/common my way of thinking is. So much about suicide prevention is focused on short-term distress tolerance or "fixable" problems (eg situations).

What do I need from the community here...?

To be heard? To know if anyone else out there has a long enduring preference to die even when they aren't feeling active distress? And if so, has anything helped them longterm to shift that thinking?

If anyone knows of any practitioners who *specialise* in chronic SI since a young age, I'd really love to know who (if there is a way someone is allowed to??). I've tried Google searching and using online psych directories and reading bio's. I've seen many psychologists and psychiatrists in the past who haven't been able to help me shift this (even if theyve helped in other ways).

I do wonder if my neural networks for positive emotional may not have fully developed or may have atrophied due to the young age and length of time. I genuinely do not know what being happy feels like, I do not have any memory that I recall as being "happy" or joy, and I suspect this makes recovery much harder.

Im ok at the moment. Im safe. But it is exhausting.

Apologies this post is quite a bit too long.

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In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

No worries @Till23 . Always important to prioritise what you need and is best for you. You are always welcome here, and to tag me if you do pop back on to post updates. 😊 take care of yourself; i'll be thinking of you (but not worried).

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Thank you @AlwaysMyself I am glad you are getting some paid work satisfaction. The Early intervention stuff sounds good, but I am pretty disgusted at how it has played out for my son. Can’t say too much, or I will get negative. It should not mean chemical restraint and a life sentence with little intelligent and relevant to him, intervention. Yes I know they have their systems, but the lack of appropriate care for my son, has me on a bit of a cross mumma bear war path. No more BS. Hop off soap box apple. Box breathing. Settle petal.

I wrote a creative writing piece today, relating to the Saturday incident at music. It’s my rebuff and taking the Mickey, of being told the “got lemons, make lemonade “ phrase. I won’t share it here, but am curious if it has sufficient wit to hold comedy, and not just defensive anger.

@Till23 Offended would be too strong a word, more surprised, curious and a little hurt. I don’t really do “ offended “ on my own account, but learning to harness righteous indignation as needed. These were individual tags on your thread. I did think about it and went and checked. I thought we had been a bit simpatico, and would only have occasionally done a bulk tagging for a sense of care and inclusion. I understand if there is no relevant personal content, then the bulk tagging may annoy some people. I have been on the forums a long time and I have witnessed the bulk tagging mainly as a positive community building protocol. Don’t worry about it too much. I quietly press support, and stay in the background, more often than bulk. Now the forums are busier, but to be honest it’s been slow work building a sense of community. A lot of good work and growth has occurred recently. @holdinghope5 @tyme

hugs @Cuddlebear

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

That sounds a great creative writing piece @Appleblossom 🙂 and great to have something that helps process the feelings.

I love comedy that takes the mickey out of things, so if you do feel like sharing any of it please do feel welcome to. Im always open to a laugh 🙂 especially if its witty 😁

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I'm really sorry I hurt you @Appleblossom I was really unwell, to the point of ending life that's why I was in hospital and I just couldn't respond - I hope you can understand.

I shouldn't be on the forums because sometimes I don't want everyone to know certain things about me, but sometimes if I connected with a person I would be more open. I have felt I have connected with you, but now I feel I have let you down.

I am letting so many people down. I think it is better to sign off the forums and then I cannot cause any further harm. I feel sad about it, because when I started on the forums I thought it was a good platform and I thought I was providing some support, maybe I was incorrect

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hey @Till23 ,

I wonder if this is an opportunity that we can work things out? I recognise that @Appleblossom was able to share their thoughts and perspective and so were you.

You've both made some really valid points.

Whilst we all have our own battles and challenges, having this open space allows us to practise some of those more challenging conversations that may arise in real life.

I can see there is openness to discussing.

Feel free to let us know if you'd like a conversation around this @Till23 . You are both unvaluable members on the forums.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

No @Till23 you don’t do harm.

wish you would ease up on your self.

please don’t leave, with the misconception that you harmed me. I was hurt because I liked you too much, and I am learning to manage my attachment wounds which went deep. So, I own my own feelings. I said it was alright. I am so hungry for real connection based on intelligence and shared values. I thought we had that. I knew you were going through heaps. Please don’t worry or make it bigger than it is. I am learning to roll with things without it being over blown. Take care. You matter. Yes, as you see. I have heaps of SI.

@tyme @holdinghope5

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself In my non fiction short piece on lemons, I mention bouncing bums on bicycles… Frida Kahlo… and that I prefer water to lemonade anyway…

In response to: Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Yes I liked chatting with you too @Appleblossom can you undertand the lack of response was due to me being so unwell, there was some hours when I could not use my phone.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

It’s alright, if we can work it out. @Till23 @So glad to see this last post. Don’t worry too much. I knew you had the death of your dog, the first anniversary of your dad, sporting and social commitments and blooming floods and bad weather.

one of the things I am discussing with my son, is all the cat behaviour with our 2 litter sisters. They have so much obvious affection for each other, and also spar and bounce around.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Appleblossom can you please let me know what I can do to work it out. I have tried to explain what happened.

My female dog was a litter sister of the dog my mother had they got on really well, even though people said don't get two female dogs from same litter. I was staying with my mother for a little while when I was moving towns. They always got on.

I will say that the pressure of having to always respond to every tag is quite a lot for me and I will fail, but it's not because I don't care, it's because I am just unable to do it.

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