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Managing thoughts of suicide & self-harm

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I figure it's better to introduce my challenges here than in a welcome. Hopefully only people willing to hear about SI will venture here.

TW: Suicidal Ideation

Content/trigger warning

I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 12. I don't remember much of life before this time. I'm aware there are times that I haven't though as much about suicide as others, but it's always been a "yes please, that would be my preference" even during the better times.

Why am I still alive then? For two reasons:

- the emotional pain it would cause to very close family.

- the physical pain of accessible methods, and the risks of non-fatal attempts causing lifelong physical impairments.

How do I keep myself going all these years?

By focusing on how I can benefit other people's lives instead. If I'm going to put up with life, it may as well be beneficial to someone.

And to help me keep life less monotonous I look for 'interesting' things - quirky people, exploring foreign countries/cultures, trying new foods (even if i dont think I'll like them). I've never been a status-quo person.

I explain to MH supports that when life is not distressing I can carry on without seriously considering suicide as a possible option. I can say "hello there thought, I hear you but I have chosen not to act on it, things are OK". But when something sets things off kilter, its a pretty quick track back to "why am I still doing this? Do I really still have the same commitment to living? And why, for whom? Why can't I be permitted to die if that's what I want for myself?"

With decades of this under my belt, I have the ability to sit with feelings of extreme distress. And the courage to text or call someone if I need to - and I'm getting a little better at doing this *before* it gets too extreme, but I still hesitate because I don't want to burden others and the frequency of it happening during those unbalanced times is too often. I've persuaded myself a few times recently to instead call a crisis line, but waiting 30-45min in a queue can sometimes exacerbate the thoughts, and sometimes the calls might help dissipate the feelings (if i called early enough) but other times I feel worse after because of course they're going to try to give some positive outlook for the future, but it grates on me because deep down I dont want a future at all. Its actually refreshing when someone acknowledges that not liking/wanting life is OK - and instead just tries to look at how to rebalance the scales to help me cope with continuing to live despite not wanting to.

I'm not sure how un/common my way of thinking is. So much about suicide prevention is focused on short-term distress tolerance or "fixable" problems (eg situations).

What do I need from the community here...?

To be heard? To know if anyone else out there has a long enduring preference to die even when they aren't feeling active distress? And if so, has anything helped them longterm to shift that thinking?

If anyone knows of any practitioners who *specialise* in chronic SI since a young age, I'd really love to know who (if there is a way someone is allowed to??). I've tried Google searching and using online psych directories and reading bio's. I've seen many psychologists and psychiatrists in the past who haven't been able to help me shift this (even if theyve helped in other ways).

I do wonder if my neural networks for positive emotional may not have fully developed or may have atrophied due to the young age and length of time. I genuinely do not know what being happy feels like, I do not have any memory that I recall as being "happy" or joy, and I suspect this makes recovery much harder.

Im ok at the moment. Im safe. But it is exhausting.

Apologies this post is quite a bit too long.

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In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself How are you feeling about your last day? I hope you are feeling like you will have time now to be away from work stress and be able to take the much needed break you need. I hope today does go well and you can feel good about leave.

I have been unwell. I wish it was not the case.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I am feeling relief for the end of work @Cuddlebear . Although i do hope my mood wont be low like it was late last week - that type of low-mood anhedonia is hard to motivate myself to do productive things or to engage in activities like crafts (because i feel no enjoyment from them). But it is important to keep my brain occupied mentally, or i will spiral.

I have a semi-busy next 2 days with medical appointments as usual for Thurs and Friday. And my GP appt on Monday for my work certificate.

Do you like baths or showers?

I don't 😅 unless i am sick and need the pain relief or clearing of sinuses!

But i know many people do any wonder if that it relaxing for you?

I know some people add scents to showers or baths also.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself aww sounds like you've got a lovely work team, hope your last day goes well 😊

not wanting to 'check-in' this afternoon sounds fair. sometimes it's nice not having to overanalyse/reflect deeply and just go about your day.

i'm short-sighted too! i get what you mean about removing the glasses hehe. oh i like this idea of making your own moulds - it's quite a time consuming process right?

ooo yes would love to see the DnD ones! also, loving the resin pieces you've made, the gnomes my fav hehe 🤩

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself I am glad it’s your last day and that you feel relief too.

I am really hoping that the anhedonia does not return and that you can engage in your crafts and other activities plus rest too as I know the chronic fatigue is terribly difficult. Anhedonia is something I started experiencing earlier this year and I can really relate to what you are saying.

It’s good you’ve got something on next couple days even if it’s the medical appointments which I sure are very helpful to your overall health too. What appointments do you have on? No need to say if you prefer not to.

Im struggling to shower … Have not had one now for over a week. 😞 I need one but it’s beyond my ability at the moment.

usually I do like showers. They’re refreshing and you feel nice and clean. 🙂

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@rav3n @Cuddlebear just got home from work, and went and took photos of my minis from a boardgame called Shadows Over Camelot. The figures are each only 5cm tall and they are quite detailed. My phone camera can't focus when they are too close up though. (Hopefully you have a way to magnify them @Cuddlebear - i know you said you could with past pictures, but no stress if you cant or dont have the capacity currently).

 Firstly, the above is a Pict and a Saxon (enemies in the game). By the time i got to doing the Picts i was a little less bothered by very fine details, and it is very noticable in their faces haha. Yes i painted blue eyes on the Saxon, but its hard to see on the phone.

This is one of the Knights of the Round Table.

This is another Knight.

Below is the 7 Knights (player characters for the game) - King Arthur is the red one. Plus the 3 artifacts: Excalabur sword, Holy Grail and Lancalots Armour.

As for ones we currently use in DnD (and @Till23 if curious), its been an evolution of props. We started with pieces of paper and our initial polymer clay and other random things we had

 i hope this gives you a laugh at the basicness.

Then we painted out pieces, and our DM decided he wanted to do some craft and try making scenery for a dungeon:

We were all very impressed! Its mostly foam.

But of course it was customised for that dungeon, and doesnt work for other locations, so we are mostly back to chalk on glass now:

We dont have any consistency in size scale, lol. And we don't care because we generally know or ask what size something is.

I will try doing some 3d prints too, after chatting to @Jynx last week and being impressed by their friends' filament-printed models at scale.

I also realise i can 3d print moulds to fill with plaster, but could also 3d print the items/shapes to then mould around. But need a nice surface on the print so it doesnt have horizontal lines.

I am also considering the cost-effectiveness of 3d printing the larger figures and just priming them and painting them myself as well, for lighter-weight statues/decor. Depends how much/tiresome sanding the prints will be.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Cuddlebear i have a chiro appointment and remedial massage (which help with physical pain) and my counselling appointments over the next 2 days.

I will also be looking after the dogs until i go to sydney as my ex is housesitting for his parents pets while they are away, and thus cant take ours on the weekends - but he says he will still walk ours on the weekend like normal and whilst I am away in sydney when he is off work (unless i get the dog walker to come still but that is harder to arrange when i am not going to be home).

Do you reckon you would feel OK once you were in the shower/bath (rather than thinking abput it beforehand), feeling the warm or cool water running over you?

I'm a fan of the cloth-washing method when i do not want to have a shower and get myself all wet. Just damped a facetowel, put some soap on it, and wash the selected area. Then rinse the cloth out and wring it out and use it to wipe away the soap again. Sometimes i find that more managable.

You could also do it with plain water and a nice scent to wipe on your arms or foreheat just to cool down too, if that feels nice.

Of course you don't have to have a soothing shower or a refreshing wipe - they're just ideas to help motivate. 🤗

I forget if you have hearing aid/etc to be able to listen to audiobooks/podcasts?

I have a few i listen to whilst driving to/from work and to get to sleep or if im really fatigued and need to keep my eyes closed but brain active. Today i was listening to one (its from 2020 though so its a little outdated) about people implanting technological sensors into their bodies.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself Wow that sounds like a really cool game! I’ve never heard of it. The figures must be quite hard to paint too being small. You’ve done a very good job with them. You’ve been very creative with making the board game!

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

YES! Definitely start an 'anhedonia' thread, many people will resonate with it! @AlwaysMyself 🫶

This is really interesting research, thank you for sharing.

I am still having a search around, but I thought this might be helpful:

https://yung-sidekick.com/blog/severe-anhedonia-a-somatic-and-behavioral-protocol-for-rebuilding-the-capacity-for-reward ☺️

PS: Tagging you in here too! @Till23

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Thanks for tag @AuntGlow, currently I'm feeling a bit too stressed to take in new information, but it seems interesting on quick perusal

I have to say @AlwaysMyself you have been doing a lot lately. You don't seem to have apathy, with all these craft activities and big presence on forums.

I can see your figurines now and they look great. Did you use actual figurines to make the alginate mould? Yes there is a lot of detail in them, they are very good.

Well done. How long did the resin take to cure

Also I missed that you got flowers from your colleagues which I hope made you feel like the special person that you are.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

wow, great photos there @AlwaysMyself 😎

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