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Managing thoughts of suicide & self-harm

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I figure it's better to introduce my challenges here than in a welcome. Hopefully only people willing to hear about SI will venture here.

TW: Suicidal Ideation

Content/trigger warning

I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 12. I don't remember much of life before this time. I'm aware there are times that I haven't though as much about suicide as others, but it's always been a "yes please, that would be my preference" even during the better times.

Why am I still alive then? For two reasons:

- the emotional pain it would cause to very close family.

- the physical pain of accessible methods, and the risks of non-fatal attempts causing lifelong physical impairments.

How do I keep myself going all these years?

By focusing on how I can benefit other people's lives instead. If I'm going to put up with life, it may as well be beneficial to someone.

And to help me keep life less monotonous I look for 'interesting' things - quirky people, exploring foreign countries/cultures, trying new foods (even if i dont think I'll like them). I've never been a status-quo person.

I explain to MH supports that when life is not distressing I can carry on without seriously considering suicide as a possible option. I can say "hello there thought, I hear you but I have chosen not to act on it, things are OK". But when something sets things off kilter, its a pretty quick track back to "why am I still doing this? Do I really still have the same commitment to living? And why, for whom? Why can't I be permitted to die if that's what I want for myself?"

With decades of this under my belt, I have the ability to sit with feelings of extreme distress. And the courage to text or call someone if I need to - and I'm getting a little better at doing this *before* it gets too extreme, but I still hesitate because I don't want to burden others and the frequency of it happening during those unbalanced times is too often. I've persuaded myself a few times recently to instead call a crisis line, but waiting 30-45min in a queue can sometimes exacerbate the thoughts, and sometimes the calls might help dissipate the feelings (if i called early enough) but other times I feel worse after because of course they're going to try to give some positive outlook for the future, but it grates on me because deep down I dont want a future at all. Its actually refreshing when someone acknowledges that not liking/wanting life is OK - and instead just tries to look at how to rebalance the scales to help me cope with continuing to live despite not wanting to.

I'm not sure how un/common my way of thinking is. So much about suicide prevention is focused on short-term distress tolerance or "fixable" problems (eg situations).

What do I need from the community here...?

To be heard? To know if anyone else out there has a long enduring preference to die even when they aren't feeling active distress? And if so, has anything helped them longterm to shift that thinking?

If anyone knows of any practitioners who *specialise* in chronic SI since a young age, I'd really love to know who (if there is a way someone is allowed to??). I've tried Google searching and using online psych directories and reading bio's. I've seen many psychologists and psychiatrists in the past who haven't been able to help me shift this (even if theyve helped in other ways).

I do wonder if my neural networks for positive emotional may not have fully developed or may have atrophied due to the young age and length of time. I genuinely do not know what being happy feels like, I do not have any memory that I recall as being "happy" or joy, and I suspect this makes recovery much harder.

Im ok at the moment. Im safe. But it is exhausting.

Apologies this post is quite a bit too long.

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In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Aww of course @Cuddlebear I like being able to be here for everyone. This community is truly such a wholesome place and it's such a privilege to be part of it!!

Sorry that things are so hard, and those service gaps are painful I know. It makes me feel all sorts of things to know that it's such a struggle for so many to just get the bare minimum in terms of support - something we all need and deserve.

Even when you're not feeling like a ray of sunshine, you deserve to be here and feel seen and heard. People to stand with you in the storm 💜

(づ ᴗ _ᴗ)づ♡

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Jynx Hello lovely how are you?

Thank you for understanding. You are so kind and gentle. The forums are good and I appreciate everyone who engages and provides a space to talk.

I’m up and feeling dreadful. It’s so hard to sit with these feelings. I’ve been having terrible nightmares too.

having people to stand with me in the storm is something I really need. Even online.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hi @Cuddlebear

We all need someone to stand in the rain and the storm with us and we are so glad you are here and sometimes it is you with the umbrella for us when it is stormy weather. Take care of you and be so kind to yourself today.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Tolly @Hello 🙂 How are you? Yes we all do need the support. And can support others as well as we walk through the storms.

It has been very quiet on forums. A lot of people going through so much.

Im a mess today again. It’s been tough.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hi @Cuddlebear I am so sorry you are having a tough time this week, and I am just hoping that the remainder of the week is going to be a little kinder to you so you can catch a breath and a break from feeling this way.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

sitting here with you @Cuddlebear 😍

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hi @Cuddlebear I’ve been researching and the posting those items the Autism/ADHD thread as a distraction.
The pain relieving med I was given via infusion start of December last year I knew would only last x months, due to it being my first infusion there was no way of doing any type of projection. Only info my pain management Dr could tell me was the pain would gradually return (could become as intense as it was last year) plus there has to be minimum 4mth period of time between 2infusions.

The last couple of weeks the pain in my back has been getting worse. With mix of rain and very cold temperatures on the weekend, I spent almost the entire 2 days with heat packs and small electric blanket on my back whilst I spent the 2 days on the couch under a blanket. yesterday was the worst day so far in regards to pain, movement and posture.

I have hospital booking already made for last week of May for next infusion, 5 long weeks away. Anti inflammatory meds are helping a little bit. specialist not happy with current status of my lungs, my inhalers have been changed plus have meds, combination should improve things and, fingers crossed, allow plans for infusion to proceed.

thanks for the feedback about the Autism/ADHD info I’ve shared. Huge personal learning curve for me

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Cuddlebear aww hun, you make me feel all warm and fuzzy, thank you for saying that.

Nightmares are awfully challenging for sure. Especially if they're relentless. Do you have ways to help ground and soothe yourself after having one? Something to help tether you to the here and now?

Always here for you hun, so glad this space is a supportive one for you. I'm always just a tag away, as are most of us here. We gotchu 💜

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Jynx Hello lovely how are you? You really are amazing. Your post feels like you really do care.

The only things I have re nightmares is to breathe through the panic and tell myself will be ok. It doesn’t really work for me. The grounding tools are not working either. My GP says it’s because I’m more chronic but to keep trying. I hate the nightmares. Everyday I wake up in panick and anxiety. I’m not able to do even little things.

It feels like I’ll never get better. I don’t know who to turn to anymore. Such a sense of hopelessness. I try to think positive but my mind is full of dread and I feel constantly unsafe as in something bad will happen a sense of dread. I am safe it’s the feeling of not feeling safe. I can’t go into shops or anywhere anymore. It’s agrophobia.

Im doing my best.

In response to: Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Aww @Cuddlebear I'm so glad that comes through, even in text format! This community is so amazing, it's impossible not to care about everyone here 😊💜

It sounds awful, and I can imagine that when the advice is to 'just keep trying' it can also feel incredibly frustrating on top of it all. I hope the frustration isn't turned inward - to yourself. Dreams and nightmares feel real whilst we're in them, which means our bodies are experiencing chemically the same thing as if it had actually happened to us. It is not a personal failing to be feeling overwhelmed by dread and hopelessness when you're stuck in perpetual states of fight/flight/freeze.

Do you have some strong memories you associate with feelings of safety, contentment, being calm within yourself? Sometimes we can access emotional states through pure visualisation, maybe it's worth reflecting on or focusing on - trying to really feel that sensation in your body. If you start practising whilst in a relatively stable state, the more you do so the more you may be able to tap into those physical sensations of calm whilst in the midst of panic.

You're such a trooper. I just wish you didn't have to be. Sending you soothing vibes hun 💜

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