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Managing thoughts of suicide & self-harm

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I figure it's better to introduce my challenges here than in a welcome. Hopefully only people willing to hear about SI will venture here.

TW: Suicidal Ideation

Content/trigger warning

I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 12. I don't remember much of life before this time. I'm aware there are times that I haven't though as much about suicide as others, but it's always been a "yes please, that would be my preference" even during the better times.

Why am I still alive then? For two reasons:

- the emotional pain it would cause to very close family.

- the physical pain of accessible methods, and the risks of non-fatal attempts causing lifelong physical impairments.

How do I keep myself going all these years?

By focusing on how I can benefit other people's lives instead. If I'm going to put up with life, it may as well be beneficial to someone.

And to help me keep life less monotonous I look for 'interesting' things - quirky people, exploring foreign countries/cultures, trying new foods (even if i dont think I'll like them). I've never been a status-quo person.

I explain to MH supports that when life is not distressing I can carry on without seriously considering suicide as a possible option. I can say "hello there thought, I hear you but I have chosen not to act on it, things are OK". But when something sets things off kilter, its a pretty quick track back to "why am I still doing this? Do I really still have the same commitment to living? And why, for whom? Why can't I be permitted to die if that's what I want for myself?"

With decades of this under my belt, I have the ability to sit with feelings of extreme distress. And the courage to text or call someone if I need to - and I'm getting a little better at doing this *before* it gets too extreme, but I still hesitate because I don't want to burden others and the frequency of it happening during those unbalanced times is too often. I've persuaded myself a few times recently to instead call a crisis line, but waiting 30-45min in a queue can sometimes exacerbate the thoughts, and sometimes the calls might help dissipate the feelings (if i called early enough) but other times I feel worse after because of course they're going to try to give some positive outlook for the future, but it grates on me because deep down I dont want a future at all. Its actually refreshing when someone acknowledges that not liking/wanting life is OK - and instead just tries to look at how to rebalance the scales to help me cope with continuing to live despite not wanting to.

I'm not sure how un/common my way of thinking is. So much about suicide prevention is focused on short-term distress tolerance or "fixable" problems (eg situations).

What do I need from the community here...?

To be heard? To know if anyone else out there has a long enduring preference to die even when they aren't feeling active distress? And if so, has anything helped them longterm to shift that thinking?

If anyone knows of any practitioners who *specialise* in chronic SI since a young age, I'd really love to know who (if there is a way someone is allowed to??). I've tried Google searching and using online psych directories and reading bio's. I've seen many psychologists and psychiatrists in the past who haven't been able to help me shift this (even if theyve helped in other ways).

I do wonder if my neural networks for positive emotional may not have fully developed or may have atrophied due to the young age and length of time. I genuinely do not know what being happy feels like, I do not have any memory that I recall as being "happy" or joy, and I suspect this makes recovery much harder.

Im ok at the moment. Im safe. But it is exhausting.

Apologies this post is quite a bit too long.

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In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AuntGlow I’ve been thinking about this. I really don’t have anyone that I can reach out to. My mum was safe and loving but she’s passed away.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Cuddlebear thinking of you and sending caring vibes your way. Very understandable that things feel harder in the interim with things all over the place and bumping into things in new layouts. *hugs* I wish I could offer practical help 😥. Let me know if I can help support you from afar somehow.

Would a yummy Greek dinner cheer you at all?

Or something self-care?

A funny story? Or weird random fact?

Or a relaxing or funny TV show?

I feel special that you have remember it is Wednesday and thus my end of work week. 🥰 My day was productive at work - felt like I made a dent in my overarching project work, and not just attending to spot-fire on other tasks that keep cropping up. 😊

Tomorrow my plan is to visit my grandmother. Although it looks like it might be raining again tomorrow, so I suspect she may not want to go out. Maybe I will bring a sweet treat to her (vanilla slice, perhaps!)

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Know that I am sitting with you @Cuddlebear. I understand that mum isn't with you... but is it possible to imagine how she might be there for you if she was?

I am not at all suggesting that this makes up for her actual presence with you, but I am wondering if it's possible for you to call in her loving, maternal energy?

Also, maybe there is someone on the forums here who could create that space for you too? (Whoever pops into your mind first is probably the perfect person.) 🥰

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Oh @Cuddlebear I can only imagine what you are going through. I am glad you have managed the move. Getting to know a new space like that would be awful. I would probably want to give up and go to bed. Have you got any support worker who can give you a sense of the layout? Anyone visiting you to help settling in? You have so much strength just surviving. Let us know how you are?

I had no internet for a couple days.

hugs apple

🍎

@AlwaysMyself @Shaz51 @tyme @AuntGlow

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Appleblossom Good morning lovely how are you? It’s been rough as guts. I’m not functioning at this point. I’m feeling unsafe and distressed and my body is overwhelmed. This new place is very hard and I have no ability to unpack making it worse with boxes everywhere. No one is able to help. My support worker has only 9 hours a week and has set up my bed and some tiny space to walk to my room. I’m trying the best I can. It’s just so very hard.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hi @Cuddlebear I just wanted to pop in and say hello. I've been following along with this new move and am hearing how difficult and overwhelming it has been. I'm glad that you've been able to stay connected here throughout it.

When will your support worker be by next?

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

hey @Cuddlebear!! i'm so sorry to hear how overwhelming things are right now, i can see that the 9 hrs support isn't enough either. is there any way to get your support worker hours increased? oh and did your support worker come by to visit you this morning already? or is that later today?

i also noticed you mentioned feeling unsafe but trying your best to keep going. that takes real strength, and i really do hope that things get brighter for you soon 💙

if those feelings continue and you feel you might need additional support, please don't hesitate to reach out to the services below:

you deserve to be heard and supported.

In response to: Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Ru-bee Hello lovely how are you? My support worker comes today for 3 hours from 12:30. Then nothing till next week.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@rav3n Thank you. The feelings of unsafe are from complex PTSD. They’re also from new place not being accessible. Old place was much better.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself hugs to you and @Cuddlebear

@AuntGlow @Ru-bee @rav3n

cuddlebear, it would be hugely distressing and disorienting.

I try and work out what is necessary, with given resources, be that in personal traits, social or material aspects. I was homeless a lot as a little kid. I am glad your bed is set up. If 9 hours per week is what you have, reduce your energy expenditure and keep as cosy and safe as you can til their shifts. Not sure how you organise food. Figure out how to get water and to the loo, but don’t worry about showers or baths too much, unless they are easy to find from your bed. Keep chatting online, to help get through the first few weeks.

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