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Anyone started with the NDIS?

Anyone started with the NDIS?

Tells my story from initial application (Feb '17) to acceptance by NDIS (July '18) and the process of putting things in place and progress, improvements, managing and difficulties since then. Now Jan '21.

Original post : I've recently moved and will need to get into the NDIS in my new location. Wondering if anyone in the forums has successfully done this? Any advice would be welcome. Feeling swamped by their website.

EDIT : I was finally accepted to the NDIS and am now 3/4 through my 2nd plan. With only a small reduction from the first year. And this plan is for 2 years so I don't have to jump through all the hoops with a review this time next year. To all others on this path I say ........

IT'S REALLY WORTH PERSEVERING!!!

Hoping this thread helps all who come here.

@Appleblossom @Queenie @saturnzoon @CheerBear @Mazarita @Bunniekins

Spread the word!

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Hey @eth. Thanks for checking in about this. I have just over a week until my plan expires and am currently waiting for my new one. It could come through anytime between now and a couple of weeks away and right now I feel like I'm bracing myself for another NDIS smashing. I asked my support coordinator to call me when it comes through rather than me seeing it first, so he can support me if it all turns ugly. I have no reason to believe it will be anything other than bad so I thought it was a good idea to plan for it to be that way.

I did hear back about my request for a plan review I have been waiting since the start of February for though. Someone called me the next working day after my scheduled plan review meeting to tell me my request for a review had come up and to make a time to do it. I cracked it 😡 The call felt like a kick while I was down given I'd been waiting all year for it and as soon as it became redundant they finally got to it. It was completely laughable and very typical of my NDIS experience so far, hence why I'm bracing myself now.

Feeling very nervous about it all 😏

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Re: Anyone started with the NDIS?

Hi @CheerBear wishing you all the best for a positive outcome with your new plan and that you feel it's enough to help progress your goals. How typical of NDIS to stuff you around regarding your request for review months prior. I'm sure you told them you'd had your new plan meeting and didn't need the review done after all in no uncertain terms. I would have cracked at them too. I guess all you can do is 'hurry up and wait' for your new plan. Mine came through the day after the old one expired and is for 2 years. Hope the same for you. Good idea getting your CoS to see it first. I also got my plan manager to go over it with me and work out exactly what I am entitled to in each category e.g. how many psychology appointments, how many support hours per week, etc. I can't remember whether you are agency, plan manager or self-managing.

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Re: Anyone started with the NDIS?

Hey @CheerBear

Good luck with your new plan. I hope it's a good one. I've been reading in the facebook ndis groups that if they time a review with when a new plan is coming out, dont cancel the review as you might still need it. Sorry but I dont know all the details, I'm still trying to get supports up and running for my first plan, but having a review in your pocket may come in handy.

I have my fingers crossed for you 🙂

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Re: Anyone started with the NDIS?

Thanks @eth. I'm self managed which would be great if I had the right funding in the right place 🙂

Hi and thanks @Alone. I too hope this new plan is a helpful one. I asked about keeping that review open in case this plan is again not right but was told I couldn't. It's a shame as the person who called sounded so much more understanding than the LAC who did my review a couple of weeks ago. Will wait and see, crossing my fingers.

I hope it's going OK for you getting supports in place. When it works it seems to work well but when it doesn't it seems to go very belly up!

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Kudos to you @CheerBear there's no way I would be able to self- manage. That must involve a lot more time on admin for you.

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It's not too bad @eth. That may be because it seems you engage with a much broader amount and type of support services than I do. I'd struggle with the admin involved in everything you have to do. All I really need is my counsellor, psych and an outreach based mental health worker of some kind (plus a little support coordination initially and for plan reviews). The LAC/s struggled to understand my needs it seems and funded/have tried to fund everything and anything except them 😏 We'll see 🤞

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Re: Anyone started with the NDIS?

@eth could you give me a summary version of ...
1) What did you do differently do eventually be approved?
2) What are the actual practical benefits of the NDIS?
Cheers, Liz

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Hi @-Liz- I have to apologise but don't have time to give you the information you ask for today. Both very good questions. When next I get a chance I'll reply in detail. My mum is here already and things are hectic til I go away until Jan 7th. Really hope you can be patient - nothing re NDIS is likely to change before then anyway - they are on shut down from today until the 6th as far as I know. I will answer you but just can't do it right now. Tagging @CheerBear @Appleblossom @Bunniekins in case you would like to answer @-Liz- until I am able to. TIA xx

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@-Liz- They are good questions.

It is not a given, and a lot depends on your own personal circumstances. I have heard people call it a full- time job and some reject it. I have begun a plan and am half way through my first year. It has been working for me, with only minor hiccups. I can honestly say I feel better supported than ever in my life. I am getting a few extra allied health sessions to help with physical (neck) issues, more one to one attention which is emotionally grounding, and reduces isolation, and soon I will get help doing the things I cant manage in the garden. Just an example.

Take Care

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Re: Anyone started with the NDIS?

Hi @-Liz- getting back to you at last, but if Mum appears I'll have to go.

So....getting accepted to the NDIS finally happened 18 months after my initial application (which you can do with your GP or clinically qualified allied health professional) and lots happened along the way, too much to write in one post. If you possibly can it is worth reading through this thread. The final stage of my trying to get approved was what's called an external appeal (you have to have done an internal appeal prior and been unsuccessful with that) ... with the external appeal we went to the Administrative Appeals Tribunal which can override NDIS/NDIA decisions. For this I had a disability advocate (google them in your state - I'm in NSW) and she got me a legal aid solicitor. They were amazing. I also had my sister-in-law acting as my carer/nominee.

The things we had to prove were

1. that my 'psychosocial disability' is lifelong and permanent. (That's what NDIS calls mental health disabilities. In my case I have complex PTSD since a child which is not likely to ever be healed, just managed, along with bipolar 1 which is lifelong and episodic.

2. functional effects of my disability in all the 5 categories that are on the initial access request form. This part is crucial as the NDIS are more focussed on functional limitations/effects than the actual diagnostic label.

3. that there was something unique in my case (that's needed to get the solicitor and to get the AAT involved). Again it was the combination of the cPTSD and BP 1 and the ways in which they compound each other and are entwined.

4. that my goals are reasonable and necessary and will give me improved choice and control in my life.

5. that all mainstream medical services had been exhausted and were insufficient.

Note - I have deliberately used NDIS language above - one of the things that is a challenge when applying is that they basically have a language of their own, with lots of really specific catch phrases.

I had very detailed reports from clinical psychologist, psychiatrist and a mental health occupational therapist assessment. In the end the NDIS conceded and accepted me 2 days before the hearing was scheduled! Everyone said they gave in so that my case didn't set a precedent that others could use.

If you do apply and are granted a 'planning meeting' you can request face to face instead of over the phone, and there's a list of questions they are likely to ask you around page 57-58 of this thread that lots of people have found helpful.

Practical benefits are really effective in improving my quality of life and 'capacity building' my skills to better manage my conditions. The Recovery Model defines the outcomes I am working towards. I have support workers 12 hours a week average who get me to all my essential appointments, errands such as grocery shopping, chemist etc, public transport training and independent mobility, community engagement e.g. writing groups, live readings at the art gallery, women's centre activities, computer courses, water tai chi, activities with the local disability alliance and more. I am even able to have driving lessons with a mental health occupational therapist instructor. And the single biggest thing is that I'm funded for much more psychology per year than the mainstream mental health care plan enables ( that's only 10 sessions per year and this way I'm able to have a minimum of 40 or so so I can go weekly or fortnightly for the whole year). My funds also cover a 'coordinator of supports' and a 'plan manager'.

Hopefully I've answered your questions adequately. I'm happy to discuss all this further, but as I have said I won't be here between 26th Dec and 8th Jan, so you'll have to be patient with me.

Take care, Eth.

Edit 21/1/20 : Tagging you here too @Wanderer in case any of the above is helpful for you too.

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