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Am Not Coping

Am Not Coping

I am really not coping at the moment but this is entirely on ME!

This is a message for a few people on here @utopia @Former-Member @Faith-and-Hope @Former-Member

that I asked could be passed on but it seems that only part of it has been and I understand from the responses that have made it through my emails that I have caused untold distress for some people. I was not going to return because of what I felt I put people through but I especially wanted @utopia and @Former-Member to know that they were not wrong at the time and I was going through a real crisis period. You both held me together for longer than I could myself until the point where my own self-destructive thoughts overwhelmed me.

The entire message that I sent to SANE is below:

I have just viewed the multitude of emails and messages sent from forum members and members of the SANE team – as well as the text and voice message left on my phone.

I have not been able to communicate with anyone since the other night as I have been recovering from what ended up being an unsuccessful attempt to end the pain.

At the time I was in a very distressed state and I did want to stop the pain and all I seemed to achieve is to cause others pain and worry and that is the last thing I wanted to do – I just wanted to end mine and say goodbye to everyone beforehand so my future absence was explained. I should have realised that the message I posted would have concerned some people but I really was not in any state to think about the repercussions for others.

I am so sorry I caused so much distress to others – that is something I will have to hopefully try and live with.

I don’t believe after the concern and anxiety I caused to so many that I will ever be able to return to the forum.

Can someone from the SANE team please explain all this to all those involved and pass on my gratitude for their compassion, concerns and kind words throughout the time I have been part of the ‘forum family’.

Thank you and sorry again for the difficult position I put everyone in.

Zoe7

I do not want any responses from any of you. I just wanted to let you know exactly what has happened and let you know how truly sorry I am for hurting people I have come to think of as friends and family, and who I really care about.

Your support, advice and compassion are what make you all the wonderful people you are.

@utopia and @Former-Member I am so sorry that the trust you placed in me has now been broken because of my actions. I also felt that we had a stronger connection, especially over the last week, and you both helped me in ways I cannot even describe or explain. I was not pulling away from you two - just wanted to pull away from myself. I couldn't cope with my own feelings and no-one or nothing was actually going to be able to stop me at the time. It's now just another failure to add to my list of failures. I really don't know what else to say to you both but to reiterate my heartfelt 'sorry'.

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Just seen your previous image @Owlunar - it is beautiful. I love how you match the colours to @Faith-and-Hope and my favourite colours - whether intentional or not - it is really thoughful

I had a similar conversation last night about pain and comparisons - and I will say to you what I said last night - pain is pain - no-one's is better or worse - it is just different. We all need to 'deal' with our own pain and for some it is a little harder to cope with but that does not diminish the pain someone else feels in any way.

My life may be a complete nightmare at the moment but I am certainly not alone in feeling pain. So I really want to acknowledge to you that your pain matters - as does your kindness and compassion

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So glad to hear that you have achieved a change of relationship with your dad @Zoe7 .....

WH was always family-oriented in terms of supporting whatever he could for us to the side of his business commitments, and we have some amazing memories of holiday times in special places. The "him" we knew while the kids were growing up was a genuinely wonderful person ..... caring and focussed on our welfare.

The change in personality with this illness was a cold-water shock to the system ..... I can remember trying to tell him in the first year of "transition" that it was like he had brought his lawyer-like work persona home with him and was interrogating, demanding, ruthlessly controlling and bad-tempered unless what he wanted was followed to a tee and quickly. Then he was "bestowing reward" on us for complying, which was just as offensive.

We lost him when he stopped working .....

Strange, isn't it ?

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In some ways I do understand it though @Faith-and-Hope For WH work, being useful, having control over his own destiny was found in his work and his 'successes'. So to have to completely change his 'whole life' and mindset without the same things that kept him going as he was through work is a massive change. Often such a massive 'lifestyle' change brings out all those traits in a person that have been suppressed because they have had to be to accomplish such success in business(and other areas of one's life). So I can see the opposite of what I have kearnt from you about WH presently and would see that the 'old' WH would have been a caring, thoughtful and loving person to be around.

We both seem to have people in our lives who have completely changed through finishing work - but you have seen the negative and I have seen the positive. I do also believe my father would not be still with us if he hadn't given up the business - he would have literally worked himself into an early grave and with very little reward at the end.

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Now I believe I can see quite clearly that WH had moved back into his birth family dynamic in his work environment - working with his birth family once I was no longer in his office environment with the birth of our first child. We were like his "holiday family" with me as the family manager under his general manager umbrella.

When the work environment dissolved, instead of giving up his work persona, we have found out the hard way that it was his primary persona that previously served very well on the work environment. The work persona took over from who we had known him to be, replacing "him" with this driven, controlling version .....

Now that he has been called on it by the pdoc, we have to see where this goes ..... maybe when he is wrestled out of his e.d. we will find a return to the WH we used to know, in a changed form no doubt ..... but there will be a need for therapy and perhaps medication as a part of that process.

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It is definitely not going to be an easy road by any means @Faith-and-Hope WH will resist even acknowledging that there are issues and that will most likely make 'life' even harder for you and your baby dragons. I am sure you already feel/know this yourself. But if change does happen and you find a way back to the WH you first met and fell in love with then my hope for you is that it will be worth the pain that you have been enduring for so long and your family can be 'put back together'. Whatever the outcome - you have done everything possible FOR YOUR FAMILY and that is not only admirable but extremely selfless of you Hon

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Yes @Zoe7 - our pain is our pain - regardless of its severity - and it is something we have to live with regardless of how we would like to live

It was in the early winter of 1995 when this began - and I certainly did not think ahead to now - which means I have just had the 23rd winter with it - but as life goes on I know I deal with it better

The way I managed everything changed when my mother died and the repressed memories came out - I know the injury to my spine was real and not caused by my mother at all - but after I dealt with the repressed memories - yes - those things or something similar happened - I am an Adult Survivor of Child Abuse - something I can't change and have to accept - and did

Then I found it easier to deal with the pain - except there are times when I could certainly do without it - who wants it? There are times like last Saturday when I had to wait 7 hours for the locum doctor to come and administer an injection I am approved for having - and my spine has yet to settle down - but it's easier today than it was yesterday.

Some people have said really stupid things to me at times - but imagine I have said them - I don't have to like what has happened - I don't have to like the pain - but I consider it's the devil I know and therefore I would rather have this than some of the other things that happen to people

Not only that - seeing as I had my shoulder badly damaged in a car accident two days before my son died I know that emotional pain is far worse than physical pain - physical pain can often be treated or at least eased - emotional pain has no path but through to becoming easier - it can take years - decades - and still bite at certain dates

It is a very gentle thing - and infinitely suffering thing - that my pain matters to you as does my kindness and my compassion. This is so special - if my pain and loss as increased my kindness and compassion all I have been through has been worth it

Thanks so much Zoe

Dec

💕💜❤💚💗

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The hardest part of all of this is being under judgment as a selfish person @Zoe7. I feel a need to be validated to WH and I am hoping that the work that the therapists do with us will provide that, not more criticism over what I should or shouldn't have done instead ...... they may behave a rule book of some sort, but I didn't .....

All I can do is wait and see now.

I so love having you to talk to about it all. I thought my father was a workaholic, but WH left him so far in the shade with that that it would be laughable if it wasn't so painful .....

It's all about degrees at the end of the day ..... the degree to which it is obsessive ..... the degree to which it affects everybody .....

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I think the positive thing that we can all look upon on here is that whatever we have been through/continue to go through definitely increases our level of care, compassion and empathy for each other. We don't need to necessarily be 'walking in someone else's shoes' to understand the pain one feels as we have seen it ourselves (in whatever form) and recognise that at times it is totally debilitating and at other times just manageable @Owlunar

We often lose so much of ourselves through our pain but find it in small ways when we can empathise with and support others

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I am just really happy that I can be here for you to talk @Faith-and-Hope - couldn't have had the same conversation yesterday - still wanted to end it then. There has definitely been a slight change in those thought processes for me this morning - and YES sleep has been the major factor (along with the reduced fever I would say).

It is infact the selflessness of your actions that has you 'branded' as selfish - you 'take on' everyone else's behaviours and emotions but remain stable and loving - that can be seen as 'distant' as you do not react to 'dramas' the way WH (and the kids) expect. That will hopefully be illuminated in the future and they will all come to understand how incredibly brave and strong you have been throughout this Hon

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💜💐💕 @Zoe7 .....

Waiting for the apt .....
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