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Dark thoughts due to isolation

Dark thoughts due to isolation

Hello. I am having some dark thoughts due to how isolated I am, and how rarely friends/family reach out and see whether I'm okay, let alone answer messages I've left asking how they're doing. I try to communicate and keep relationships alive, but it's not working. Nobody else is putting in the effort and I'm alone. My two closest friends seem to have disappeared. I get it, I know that other people have hard lives and their own priorities, but no matter how understanding I am, that doesn't make the isolation easier. I try to be super empathetic, as I don't want to be selfish, but it's not helping now. Losing my faith in people is a big red flag. That means I'm headed down a dangerous road.

I've talked about my story a bunch of times on the forums, but here's some of what I'm dealing with: Depression, anxiety, chronic pain, insomnia (plus nightmares, night terrors, et cetera), alcohol use disorder (I have been sober for over 2 years), bulimia nervosa (very recently diagnosed), trauma, and online harassment (talked about that in this SANE post). There is also other stuff that's too personal to discuss, but I hope that's enough info.

TW: Suicidal thoughts, mentions of unsupportive family members, mentions of the online abuse which included suicide-baiting.

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These thoughts often happen when I'm lying awake at night, trying to go to sleep. I realise how completely alone I am, and start to wonder whether anyone would notice if I disappeared. I know that people would notice eventually, but as time keeps passing without anyone reaching out, I can't help but feel abandoned. It's a fact that nobody would notice for quite a while. That's not catastrophizing, it's literally true.

Even when people do reach out to me, it's often unhelpful. After I received online abuse saying that I deserve to die (among other things), I tried to tell a family member what happened, and this person just said, "you need to move on and get over it". Recently, I tried to tell the same family member that I am extremely depressed and not doing okay, and they literally said, "but you are okay, right?" I answered that no, I'm not okay. And then, the response was, "you'll be okay". Thanks... that's very helpful. I'm sure it'll magically happen just because you say it.

In the past, when I have had suicidal thoughts, they have been very urgent and emotional, and they only happened when I was extremely upset, so the solution was really simple; avoid becoming extremely upset, and the suicidal thoughts won't happen. I dealt with those thoughts successfully back then. But the suicidal thoughts I'm experiencing right now are calm, almost logical. I feel much more depressed than I've ever been, and the suicidal thoughts feel like a natural conclusion which my brain arrives at. I've never been this numb before. The suicidal thoughts feel as commonplace as thoughts about housework. How do I possibly combat that when I am always depressed, and experiencing wild mood swings?

Earlier on in my chronic pain journey, after being misdiagnosed several times, I experienced suicidal thoughts because suicide seemed like the only way to escape the physical sensations, and nobody (doctors, nurses, physiotherapists) was helping me. In fact, they were hurting me. Those specific suicidal thoughts have eased off since I've been diagnosed with nerve sensitisation and found practitioners who listen, but since I am in pain every single day and the road to recovery is very long, this feeling still occurs. So, there are multiple distinct things causing suicidal thoughts.

I am safe for now, but these thoughts are scaring me, and they're happening more and more frequently.

I have a psychologist, but I can't see them nearly enough, and they're not a crisis service. I have called mental health helplines in the past and it's rarely helpful. (Last time I was on hold for 1 hour.) I'm not sure what I need. Maybe some solidarity, if you folks have struggled with thoughts similar to mine. Or just some kind words. If you have any advice, I'd be grateful, even if it turns out not to apply in my circumstances. Just the gesture would help me believe I'm not alone. Thank you in advance, and I hope you're doing okay.

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Thanks again @PizzaMondo.

Yep, there is a lot of unaddressed trauma which prevents certain people in my family from supporting me. And there is one family member who is actively hostile/unsupportive, and who caused my first experience with suicidal thoughts a few years back (due to rejecting my transition), so there's also that in the mix. Overall, mental illness is not easy to discuss with my family. No worries about the length of your reply, I appreciate it. Doesn't feel like a rant at all. (I'm really glad you've found that personal progress in your own life, too. Thanks for sharing that.)

Yeah, I'm a bit more cautious of online support nowadays. SANE is one of the few websites where I feel relatively safe to seek mental support. I ignored the bad reviews of The Talk Shop, only to have an awful, humiliating experience with one of their online therapists, followed by awful conduct from their receptionists... So, needless to say, if I see several poor reviews of an online service, I'll generally be a lot more careful than I used to be. Once bitten, and all that.

I know that online support services aren't always seriously bad, and I've just had a run of bad luck. I'm just very cautious. But I'll take all suggestions, honestly.

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Hey @Appleblossom thank you for the support. Even if there are no answers, feeling less alone is valuable, so thank you for that. I tend to be very careful when a mental health organisation has negative reviews, as ignoring those reviews has put me in very mentally dangerous situations before... But I also recognise that I could have a good experience, despite someone else's poor experience. So, I'm open to all suggestions. Thank you for the empathy about complicated mental health histories within a family, too.

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Hey @Dimity, thank you for replying, and hello again. I'm still feeling pretty much the same, but it's nice to have people replying here as I deal with work stress today, on top of all this mental health stuff. No worries about not having any answers, I just appreciate the (digital) company. I'm sorry to hear you don't have much support, similar to me. It really does suck.

Absolutely understand if you don't want to share this (I don't know if it would be a privacy concern somehow), but what tracker app do you find helpful?

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@D1ng0 Mmm, I can imagine, and also can recognise that this can be hurtful to us when we really just want the support too, especially from certain members who just truly have no capacity.

Are you still in close contact with this family member who was not supportive of your transition? I'm sorry you have had to experience those responses from those close to you. That cannot have been busy, nor now.

I enjoy sharing too, so I appreciate your words. I feel that is important in Peer Support, because our individual mental health journeys can feel extremely lonely and isolating at times, like we are the only one on this path.. but hey, friendly reminder, I'm here on it too! 😛

This makes me really frustrated and sad to hear that you had a run of bad luck with online support services, and know that you are not alone, it is not one size fits all, after all! I am curious if you've ever used the support services at Q life? https://qlife.org.au/ I only share this as you had mentioned in your reply just before around transition. I have had a few friends who have used their webchat service and found it beneficial as the counsellors online are LGBTQIA+ identifying - which is really cool! However, sorry if I misunderstood your message and have made this suggestion that does not make sense...

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@D1ng0 I use the free version of Daylio. There's a subscription version with more bells and whistles.

Hope work is interesting enough to provide you some positive reinforcement - even if stressful at times.

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@PizzaMondo Yeah, it does feel really rough. I can't force anyone to support me, and I feel selfish if I emphasise how much I'm struggling, especially because the response I often get is, "you'll be okay"... so it doesn't seem worth having the conversation at all.

Yeah nah, I talk to that family member occasionally, but we're not in close contact. (For reference though, I'm not in close contact with anyone.) The advice I get is from them usually very dismissive and unhelpful, and makes my mental health worse, so that's another situation where I'm usually better off isolated. But my sex change process is finished now, and I'm completely socially transitioned, so there's nothing that this family member can do about that lol

Thank you for the reminder 😊

Yes, I have heard of QLife, I've had mixed experiences with them. I think it's a bit inevitable because the community is so diverse. I usually end up speaking with someone who isn't trans, and doesn't really know what to say to me. I tried their online chat, but it wasn't too helpful, as the advice basically amounted to, "see a therapist," and then we were out of time. So yeah, pretty hit-and-miss. I'm sure it's really helpful for other community members, though. I think I have really bad luck tbh

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Cheers @Dimity, will take a look at it and see whether it'd suit me. And thanks for the well-wishes, I hope you're having a good one, too.

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Hi, I am just reading this. We sound very familiar. How are you today?

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Hello @George_23 🙂

I just wanted to give you a heads up - an easy way to connect and respond to someones post is by tagging them using the "@" sign in front of their name.. like I did for you - @George_23

Then they can receive a notification and connect more easily! Hope that helps 🙂

Warmest,
PizzaMondo 🙂

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I can imagine, it's like.. okay.. there's no value in this, and I personally think what you have to say is worth something, so it's important to share with those who actually spend the time to listen and who also have that capacity. But I can acknowledge that this is the part we struggle with - finding those who do have that capacity and ability to sit with us @D1ng0

While in one sense I am glad you are not in contact with them, sounds like there still is some aspect of you that would like to, but of course, it appears that they are not open to it though.. HOWEVER, that is is so exciting, I am so happy for you to have fully transitioned, socially also! (I literally had a little jump in my seat and my hands just went up like "yay!")

Hmm, that is interesting you had another experience where seeing a therapist was suggested. I am surprised, as I am thinking.. but it's their role to hold space at that time anyway - people seek these supports when they do not have access to therapy or perhaps in that moment.. I'm sorry it's been so hit and miss. Sounds like a systemic issue to me where there needs to be tailored supports for people who come to use a service.. this is something I feel really strongly about - again, with the not one size fits all aspect.
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