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Grief and Guilt - Coping with our Feelings about our Aging Parents

Grief and Guilt - Coping with our Feelings about our Aging Parents

@PurpleFlowers@Former-Member@BlueBay

I would like to tag more names here - but right now I am not at all sure who else is coping with aging parents - maybe I could extend the convo to people handling other difficult relations - but let's see what hatches

I have not had to feel this because of the way my family treated me - but my TS sure tried to lay a guilt trip on me - but regardless of how little I was required by my parents as they aged - though Dad appreciated me always - my mother did not want me around - and that made life really hard -

Still - as stuck as I feel writing about this right now - having written it everywhere else - I am opening a thread because whether it's because Christmas is coming with lots of ho ho ho - these elderly people have all sorts of issues and there is no end to what I hear about elderly parents - some of it good some of it not good - and of my friends sees her mother all day on her day off - and takes her shopping and helps with her chores - wonderful - but that doesn't always happen

So I think we are often caught between guilt and grief - these people who once were so powerful and important in our lives fail and become frail and fall away. Some become demanding and often cruel - some pathetic - others fiercely independent

We can't do much about the oldies but we can support each other - we all are somewhere along that continuim - from the first signs of getting frail to death - and mine have died

We are not supposed to speak ill of the dead - is that because they might hear us? Well it might be true - but I was told it was because they could not defend themselves. And that's true too - but parents often give their children a hard time in later years - and this is wrong - as wrong as child abuse -

So I will leave it here and see what hatches

Decadian

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hello @Happyness

please dont feel scared when talking about things on here. you are safe. this is very confidential and safe. you do not have to talk about anything that you dont want to.

you talk about what you want when you feel like it or just read what others have written.

there is no pressure.

take care friend.

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hello @Happyness

Sometimes when people talk about things they are generalising. talking about how it is for most people these days.

They may be referring to the cost of living in general for everyone.

Household bills, food, petrol prices have all gone up.

That might be what they are referring to

take care friend

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Hi @PurpleFlowers

It is laughable what people will say to us when we experience that horrible and senseless reaction after we reveal what the dead did to us - they can't defend themselves

Who defended us when we suffered as small children when we were abused - I was physically abused but no - can't talk about it

Perhaps it's because the people we tell never suffered in such a way and indeed - who could imagine such a thing if it never happened to them

But they don't call us liars either - it's as if they rule a red-line under all that happened before - and wow - the hypocrisy that is spoken at some funerals

And so much is said about not speaking ill of the dead - aw - I think that's because they might hear us - but does anyone ever think that they might be able to read our minds - that the dead already know the truth

I just thought of that one

Dec

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Re: Grief and Guilt - Coping with our Feelings about our Aging Parents

Hello @Decadian

I agree, it is laughable and yes no-one defended us as children (so now we stand up for ourselves) and others who relate....I also agree, that some have never experienced such things and so cannot relate to what we have just said. That would be the case most likely for that aunty back all those years ago. Since that time she has had one of her granddaugters sexually abused by a grandfather on the other side of the family (who is now in jail for doing so). Good place for him!!!! It has been over 20 years, havent heard from my aunty but I am very ok with that now.....

Mind you I was called a liar by one family member but of course there was no conversation (just a blanket statement) because it suits that person to stay in that denial.. Funnily enough I am ok with that too now!!! I know what happened, I know the disastrous affects and I dont want to talk to anyone who is so disrespectful about such atrocities.....and totally agree, the hipocrisy that is spoken at some funerals (oh my gosh)!!!!! selective memory!!!!

I think your on to it, I think they can read our minds (the dead) and yes they have to live with what they did because they know the truth.. for sure.. thanks for the convesation (very enlighening) and much appreciated....

PurpleFlowers

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Hi again @PurpleFlowers

It does make me wonder why people would call someone a liar when they brought up the subject of their physical, emotional, verbal or sexual abuse - at least tell them to shut up about it - as my mother said about something "keep it to yourself" - which isn't actually denying that something happened -

But why would someone make it up? I can't imagine anyone making it up. It's so painful and on top of the abuse is the despair of the person who suffered childhood abuse - I was an honest and obedient child but rebellious - this agression followed me into adult life and a sad marriage where I did a lot of yelling - waste of energy but it kept me level going through it

However - I have a firm belief that no one can get out of life without facing what they did here. Either we accept our wrong doing - and tidy up our act - or at the end it will be their for us to face or afterwards. It must be terrible not to have a system of faith - whatever it is - to lean on and make the appropriate confessions and ask for forgiveness - I saw this with my mother - and surprised myself in how unhappy I was for her sake - not so much my own

I have a lot to think about with TS though - I don't understand how she can handle herself behaving as she does - and why. It bothers me a lot atm - I need a better memory to put in the place of those I have of her but I can't think of anything yet

It's great chatting with you Purple

Dec

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Re: Grief and Guilt - Coping with our Feelings about our Aging Parents

I am a community care worker. I was physically beaten and mentally abused by my parents. However when my mother developed dementia I was there for her and my father. It's not easy looking after a person with dementia. Mum passed away. Dad eventually succumbed to dementia but unfortunately had meant a Russian woman younger than I who was after his money she played on his weaknesses and I am sure his last 11 months would have been very sad. He was not able to contact friends or me because this woman wanted his money. I know it is difficult when people become old and informed. However they did give us life and in the end I believe we should be there to help them with respect and with the dignity they deserve regardless of how they have treated us in the past they have fears regrets and are looking at a grave it would be a very sad way to end your life not knowing when and rembering over and over what you have done and your regrets. Old age is a bugger and even if we are not treated well we do not have the right to abuse the elderly in there old age no matter what we may think of them

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Re: Grief and Guilt - Coping with our Feelings about our Aging Parents

To be honest if your dad has dementia he doesn't know who you are. He will remember he had a child. The present isn't real to him. You cannot reconcile with someone who has dementia. I am a community care worker and I work with dementia clients. Both my parents had dementia and my mother didn't recognize me as her daughter she thought I was my dads girlfriend. As far as we know dementia clients are happy in their own world it is only the family and friends who suffer. Remember your dad for what he was or did. It is not possible for you to change things now

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Sorry I made a mistake I thought it was your dad not your MIL. I apologie
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