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Just don't know how to save myself.

Just don't know how to save myself.

Hello everyone. I am sitting here surrounded by clubs & groups listings, wondering what I will try next. I keep making lists and setting them aside, knowing that it will be just another failed mission. I saw a GP yesterday. He mentioned counselling and group therapy which would help me lots, but when I go back, if I do, I expect it will be another futile attempt at saving myself, even if he goes through the motions of being helpful. I feel that once they all 'figure me out' after one meeting, I am again in unhelpful territory. I have found, without exception, that they only help those who need it least, which is why, for me and so many otherss, things go from bad to worse.

I really have tried everything. Really. I really want to live. I think I have earned that, but there are no allies for me in the real world and I can't do it on my own. I just don't know what to do next except start depending on medication to get through each day. All I need is folks who genuinely want to help me and then I could help others in return. What on earth can I do to save myself? People in a position to help are in such a powerful position of control over me, and they invariably decide not to. I am in such pain and so very lonely.

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@Historylover

It is heartening for me to see the quality of interactions on this thread @chibam @Willy @Former-Member @tyme

I do not think you are mad. I am beginning to see madness as an industry

There is truth to your statement Historylover

"the cynic within me says that society is divided into two groups – those who are allowed to get ahead and those who aren't."

I tend to see it more as a predator/prey dynamic ... probably from zoo days ...

However I am getting more and more wary of false binaries ... and not just in issues of sexuality ...

Can we agree to accept some truth in that proposition ... but broaden our thinking to accept that there are other issues and be more nuanced about it ...

Yeah sometimes microsteps are the way ... sometimes thats alright with me, but sometimes I long for a complete flip ... kind of how the winning and losing positions can change really quickly in the game Go

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(game)

They read out a couple of wonderful poems about wild things ... in this podcast ... yeah evolutionaly biologists ...there is a theme somewhere for me, sorry .. lol ...tho I technically only did biol to HSC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7eivBJIv9g&t=259s

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@pinemushroom

I don't understand what you are saying but if you are trying to shut me up you are doing a good job.

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Hi @Willy,

Apologies if you are feeling unable to talk, it is not our intention. My understanding was that our team were asking if you felt comfortable to elaborate on your previous post, where you spoke about challenging the feeling of hopelessness, is this something you have had experience with before based on the reflections in your post?

Our intention was moreso to continue to build on your post in the hopes of hearing from your experience if you felt comfortable to share further.

I hope this makes sense 🙂 We value your contributions and hope you continue to share your experiences and insights here

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@Daisydreamer

The world is spinning out of control. Down down we go into the depths of hell. I told them to call the police but they said it wasn't necessary. They just bullied and harassed me instead

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Hi @Willy I am so sorry to hear what you have been through, no one should have to experience bullying and harassment 😞

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I'm already there @Willy. There is nothing I can do. I just have to sink without a fight. There's no point to anything and I have no fight left.

I've now been betrayed by absolutely everybody in my life and I don't know why. I even ask myself if my ancestors did something wrong and I'm paying for it. I can't make sense of why my life is as it is and why I can't change it.

My new GP has me attending nearly every day. He doesn't bulk bill, doesn't prescribe generic medication – 4 times the cost, and I can't help but feel that he is playing me. He knows I have no home and am a pensioner paying rent. He said he'd investigate to find a suitable therapist but hasn't done so, he just talks about it, so I have to go back again. He doesn't prescribe generic medication yet the pharmacist says they are all the same. He says otherwise. If there is a minute difference, how on earth would it be detected if the difference is so minuscule?

My last GP told me to write to my estranged daughter and I got an IVO for my trouble. So what is the point of anything?

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I said to my GP today that I feel like one of those bears, kept in a tiny cage and milked for its bile, with no escape.

They worry about cruelty to animals, but cruelty to people is acceptable.

That's how I feel @pinemushroom. Completely broken.

My current GP is trying to convince me to trust people but doesn't think it is necessary for trust to be earned.

Makes me trust him even less than I do already.

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Hi @Historylover ,

It can be really hard to keep pushing forward and fighting, especially when we feel so alone and betrayed by those we once trusted. It's a painful experience. You are not alone here however, I and many others are here sitting with you and care 💛

If you need extra support tonight, please know the SANE Helpline is available until 10pm on 1800 18 7263

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Hey @Historylover

It would be s**t feeling like fresh prey.

Maybe I am just more analytical at heart. I never thought of it as a cynical viewpoint, more a biological one. Did not actually see myself in that "web of life" til now, and yes I sometimes feel like prey.

I also saw a lot growing up that made me very wary of cynicism, so somehow I mostly avoid that outlook. I saw it as the excuse a lot of people had to treat other people badly ... it was a no go zone for me. Not saying that you do that at all ...

Maybe, I should cultivate a little cynicism to balance my idealism and naivete. I over trust ... in a weird way ...

The state of the relationship between the sexes in general seems pretty poor ... its moved on from just being a battle ... to more of a war .... which is pretty bloody sad for 2 groups that are supposed to love each other ...

Sorry about the Gp problem ... yep ... hearing you ... hope he at least does his job ...

I dont have a good gp ... my last one turned on me about my son and was pretty irrational, but then I saw online ... that she was preoccupied with writing her own memoir ... and boasting about not concentrating on her patients she was so excited ... weary sigh ... and funny that, some of my conversations were informed and touched on creative writing ...

in the end I decided to go back to same large clinic ... and let the computer do the choosing ... eg next available ... next random ... it was the same as the one I would have picked ... thinking my approach has to be .... "Dont be too trusting Apple!"

Gotta go ...

Good to "see" you.

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@Historylover

I'm not doing too well myself at the moment. I went to the gym today and some guy who was much bigger and younger than me started threatening and bullying me when I asked him to respect my desire for social distancing. When I was younger I would have stood up to him but I am way too old to do that anymore and seem to experience a lot of bullying and discrimination these days just as a result of being old. I complained to the (young) gym staff who were less than helpful. All this triggered a PE which I dread and my head is still swimming around in a haze of "stinking thinking". Please excuse me if I say something stupid or irrelevant.

I even ask myself if my ancestors did something wrong

That's one way some people look at it. I just think life is a game of cards and some of us got dealt a bad hand.

why I can't change it

Well you can but usually only a little at a time and not when your wacked out like you seem to be at the moment so I would suggest that you forget about that one for the time being. Put it in the back of your mind for a latter date when you have built up your resources and resilience a bit .

My new GP has me attending nearly every day. He doesn't bulk bill, doesn't prescribe generic medication

My view of doctors including psychiatrists and psychologists are that they are just like everybody else. You get some very good ones, some very bad ones and quite a few so so ones. Sounds like you might have a very bad one who apart from anything else is telling you a load of bullshit. Generic is fine. The pharmacist is right.

I just changed my GP a few weeks ago after he caused me no end of grief and my daughter and a friend literally ordered me to dump him. I can now see what an incompetent idiot he was but at the time I just kept making excuses for his incompetence. No idea why. Perhaps the idea of change was too unsettling. My new doctor is a young female and seems to be much more switched on and attuned to my MH issues. It was a bit of a hassle finding a decent GP but worth the effort.

My last GP told me to write to my estranged daughter and I got an IVO for my trouble

That's a really hard one. My 40 year old daughter and I went through a very bad patch a couple of years ago. I guess she was having a mid life crisis or something and started paying out something terrible on me. It ripped me to pieces. Things have somehow resolved themselves. I am not sure how.

So what is the point of anything

I feel like that from time to time. I have decided that I have got through this much of my life (74 years) so I might as well see it out to the natural end if possible. There have been a lot of pretty rough patches and to be honest not all that many good ones but there have been some. My daughter is one of the good ones which is why it hurt so much when she turned on me.

I had always tried to hide my MH issues from her and from nearly everyone else for that matter. It was probably one of the more stupid things I have tried to do in my life. Everyone sees that something is wrong so what is the point in trying to hide it. I think I have been hiding it mostly from myself as some sort of deluded way to try and keep going. There have been hundreds of PE's over the years. Some of them have escalated into pretty serious situations because the world at large often doesn't deal very well with madness. These days I probably manage things a bit better but it can still be pretty difficult at times. Like today.

Regards

Willy

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