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Wait what did I come into this thread for again? Oh yeah, ADHD!

Wait what did I come into this thread for again? Oh yeah, ADHD!

Hey all! I decided to kick start a sweet little space for us to gather and talk ADHD!!

You can read the Topic Tuesday discussion (at which I was a guest) here.

Some of my go to resources:

ADDitude - Online Magazine/resource for all things ADHD

Three Pillars - My preference for explaining the experience of ADHD without relying on the DSM-V (scroll to bottom and work your way up the list)

How to ADHD - A Youtube channel with tips, tricks, strategies, how to guides, life hacks, you name it

Russel Barkley - a world renowned psychiatrist who has been at the forefront of research into ADHD, its neurochemical markers, and its impacts on daily experience, particularly in regards to executive dysfunction. The link is to an hour-long video aimed at parents of kids with ADHD. He also has one for adults with ADHD (with actionable tips!).

This is a space to talk about your experiences, struggles, strategies, and just an all-round safe spot to be a big pile of chaotic energy right here!!

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Re: Wait what did I come into this thread for again? Oh yeah, ADHD!

hey @Sorensen! Thanks for reaching out, sound like you're figuring out some symptoms and some potential solutions.

First up, YES! There is absolutely a link between mood swings and ADHD. Many people with ADHD struggle with executive function, one aspect of executive function is emotional regulation (source). ADHD folks can also struggle with recognising out internal messages from our body. For me, I can sometimes struggle to recognise when I'm starting to feel frustrated with something and need a break. So by the time I'm full-blown, crying frustrated at it, it's quite late!

Of course, mood swings can be caused by other things in ADHD, but yes, there is plenty of research on the link.

Secondly, it sounds like you're up for giving meds a go! Everyone is different, but I know for me, finding the right one has been life changing ❤️ ADHD meds can only be dispensed by "licensed" prescribers, and each person with ADHD can only have one, specific prescribing person. For example, only my psychiatrist can prescribe at the moment, but they can transfer their license to my GP. Because of this, I'm not really sure if you could get them prescribed by a doctor. You could

  • Talk to your GP about this
  • Try and find your old psychiatrist to see if they have records you can revisit
  • You might need a fresh diagnosis by a psychiatrist, but you can use your initial diagnosis as evidence.

What do you reckon?

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Re: Wait what did I come into this thread for again? Oh yeah, ADHD!

Thank you for the supporting list @Former-Member

Makes me feel I am doing OK in helping my family xx

Hello @ArraDreaming , @clh1 , @Sorensen , @Jynx

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Re: Wait what did I come into this thread for again? Oh yeah, ADHD!

Yes, @TuxedoCat I think I'll go back to my psychiatrist and see what can be done, that's a good idea to get the prescription then transferred to my GP.

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Re: Wait what did I come into this thread for again? Oh yeah, ADHD!

Good morning @Former-Member (and @Shaz51! Thanks for tagging me in that caters thread last night - how are you today?)

You don’t have to be sorry at all (I feel like my posts have been just about essay length!) and I just want to say how much I appreciate the time and thought you are putting in to respond to my queries and empathise with me while I’m going through a rough patch. You can write as much as you like and I will hang off every word ☺️ and this is also quite long (sorry!)


I also really appreciate your thoughtful comments about my kindness as a partner. I feel it’s taken a long time to get here. We were together in our early 20’s and I knew nothing about adhd - and thus was not empathetic or understanding of many things (i.e., the zoning out of our conversations, the emotional shut off, the distraction, the perceived “laziness” that I now know is more like an exhausted analysis paralysis), and we ended the relationship at one point because I took it all incredibly personally. I studied counselling for a year while we were apart and actually looked into adhd a lot more, and now that we are back together I’m so much more mindful of my approach, which has made a huge difference, but still doesn’t quell those feelings of isolation for me. And you can’t talk to your friends about it, lest they say, “dump him, girl!”

Absolutely love your self care menu and it sounds like you have an incredibly supportive partner who loves you very much, and how wonderful you’ve been able to work together to come up with such a thing! Would LOVE to know more about how you are limiting micro decision making! Were you wondering for a long time before your diagnosis whether you might have adhd?

To answer your questions - I usually wait until he has brought up a symptom before I start the therapy conversation (e.g., “I’m so exhausted all the time, I hate “xyz” about myself, I wish I could do “x””), to which I respond with, have you thought any more about going to talk to someone? His answer changes - sometimes it’s yes I will go I just need to motivate myself to do it, sometimes it’s no therapy is not something that’s going to help me because I’m not a talker. I try to encourage him by letting him know my own experience with therapy but his response is often “I’m not like you, it’s not as easy for me to talk to people about my problems” to which I respond therapy is not always about talking about why you’re sad, it can be about solutions and strategies for managing symptoms, or even just talking to someone who works with and understands adhd might help. He just says yep, ok, I’ll go. And doesn’t make the call. I tried the daily reminder thing once which only irritated him - though he ended up finally calling a GP and then they didn’t answer the phone……meaning, he gave up!

I have only recently started to remind him that the things he is feeling are often symptoms of ADHD and NOT personality traits for him to beat himself up about. For example, “I’m so tired and always napping. I’m so lazy, I’m the worst” is always met with a “hey, you’re not lazy. It takes about 99x the energy for a person with adhd just to get through the morning - you have a thousand things on your mind, it’s no wonder you’re exhausted”. So I feel like I can manage the empathy side and be on his team - but he’s the only one who can actually make the jump and address the root cause.

We did have a discussion once about how it also impacts me as the other 50% in our partnership - that didn’t go down well. Something along the lines of “my mental health is my issue and whether I go to therapy or not shouldn’t have anything to do with you”!

I see his biggest challenge as motivation and self worth. He is naturally such a smart and hard working person - so to have his mind fighting against him and not allowing him to exercise daily or study consistently or go out and socialise or do the things he feels he needs to do just makes him beat himself up. And then he withdraws. It’s really hard - I don’t think he’s actually asked me to leave the house and do something together in over a year.

Boy that’s a lot to read- maybe I do need a counsellor! Thank you so much for sharing those articles. I’ll give them all a read.

Hope everyone has a wonderful day.

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Morning @clh1

Wow your message is so much of my Mr shaz who has adhd and bipolar

You also sounded like me years ago when I had to refocus and change my attitude which was very hard and had to bite my tongue many times

Your partner and my husband knows they need help but I found reminding them does not help

Does your partner have any hobbies or things he like to do ??

My husband goes around in cycles , I can now see what is going to be the next step

Sometimes it is a lot of pressure on us and for me I have had to lower my expectations of him and I get surprised

@Former-Member

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Re: Wait what did I come into this thread for again? Oh yeah, ADHD!

Hi @Shaz51


Commending you for your strength and commitment to Mr Shaz and your family - it sounds like you have a lot on your shoulders and it can’t be easy. You seem to have a big presence here on SANE and it looks like you provide a listening and supporting ear for a lot of people, not just at home! Hope you are still able to find time in your day for you.

I definitely agree with you - we’re at the stage where I know it’s my mindset that needs to change, but I’m constantly teetering back and forth between lowering expectations and honouring my relationship needs/boundaries. Any practical tips for mindset change or is it a “just do it” type thing? 😂

His hobbies ebb and flow which I think is common - he masters something within a month or two and then it’s not challenging anymore - fishing, kayaking, photography, skateboarding, camping, 4WDing, playing music. I have always been jealous of how many things he’s good at! But right now he’s gaming from 4-6 hours a day when he gets home from work, I think just to relax and zone out. Have tried asking if he wants to get into any of his old hobbies together but at the moment he is just too tired.


It sounds like you and Mr Shaz have had a lot of practice - how great you are developing a crystal ball!

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Re: Wait what did I come into this thread for again? Oh yeah, ADHD!

@clh1 ❤️ Mate, I'm really feeling what you said in this post.

I suspected for about a year before my diagnosis. But really struggled with similar things to your partner. I was ALWAYS tired, didn't feel motivated to do anything, including things I enjoyed like socialising. And i resonate with your partner feeling like it might just be his personality, and I think it's great your helping him externalise that ❤️ It sounds like the first step might be to help him challenge the (very common) narrative around ADHD/depression that we're just lazy. Helping him believe in himself a bit more might make a real difference ❤️ I also shared this Comic in the thread a while ago, but it helped me release a bit of shame around my symptoms ❤️

With the limiting of micro-decisions, I find decision making so so exhausting. I think its executive function related. So my partner is to work with our brains "laziness" and accept that it's a bit different. But there are still things I/we need to do for our self-care and relationship. This is example of my "menu" with self-care. This way, I can pick from a menu of accessible activities. I think you could also add some relationship ones in there for depending on how brains are feeling that day.

My tank is low: Low energy or very enjoyable self-care My tank is half-filled: medium energy and neutral self-care My tank is full: higher energy and sometimes a chore self-care
  • 1 minute dance party
  • A hot drink alone while I listen to a fun song (ideally in the sun)
  • A hot shower while I do some breathing exercises
  • video-games
  • Walk around the block
  • Watch my favourite movie or TV series
  • Doom-scroll for distraction
  • Play with my cats
  • Order some yummy UberEats
  • Cuddle together
  • Journal
  • Talk to a trusted person about how I'm doing at the moment
  • Go for a coffee by myself
  • Do some gardening
  • Cook a yummy meal or snack
  • Do a familiar hobby
  • Cook a simple meal like pasta or toasties
  • Go for a short walk with my partner
  • Go to yoga
  • A big, long walk
  • Go out to an event or music gig
  • Try a new hobby
  • Try a new recipe
  • Go on a picnic date

Other ways I reduce micro-decision making is

  • Having snacks and pre-made meals ready to go (and trying not to feel shame about it)
  • Bulk cooking 2x meals at the start of week so we don't need to decide what's for dinner/lunches
  • Have moments of connection through the day or picking things from the menu above

Also, re: therapy, I wonder if your partner would like to try Peer Work? At SANE, we could connect him with someone who has ADHD to talk and figure things out. Some people find this useful because it's someone who "get's it". You could check eligibility here.

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Re: Wait what did I come into this thread for again? Oh yeah, ADHD!

Hey! I'm Amber22 for those that don't know me, I am a Peer Support Worker here at SANE. I thought I would pop in on here to share my own experiences with ADHD in case it might be helpful for others too!

I have had ADHD (been diagnosed with it I mean) since I was a child and so have found some things that work better for me than others over the many years. My partner has definitely had to wrap his head around it too as he had not met someone that was open about their ADHD before me and so over the five years we have been together, he has had to slowly learn little things that help me get by (especially when I am having a more intense ADHD day). He's been really supportive of it, but it definitely was a lifestyle change for him!

For example:

For date nights: I prefer if the restaurant is a bit less mentally stimulating. Really bright lights and really loud music overwhelm me a bit and cause me to get really in my head and restless, so when picking places for us to go he always keeps this in mind (if it's his turn to pick!) Also picking activities that aren't too mentally draining and long are really essential for me. I am not someone who can focus for long periods of time or stay in the same spot for more than an hour or so (at best!) I really struggle to get through my working day if I have to go into the office and I'm forever moving around, so keeping this in mind when planning any recreational activities is so important. I also get really tired after mentally demanding things, so heading straight home after them is something that helps me to feel safe and stable as well.

For myself: I keep my environment very clean and neat because I find that it helps me not to overstimulate my brain and get distracted. Also taking lots of breaks and doing something active in those breaks (I usually go for a 5-10 min walk around my block during my work breaks if I'm at home) to re-centre myself. Letting myself rest is a big one too, I always wondered why I was so tired (and seemed to be a lot more tired than anyone around me) but after realising it was a symptom of ADHD, it made sooo much sense. So when I am tired, I let myself lie down and rest, and fill my cup back up that way.

All the best,

Amber22

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Thank you so much @amber22 and @Former-Member for sharing your experiences with me. Particularly find the date night tips and self care menu helpful and even just hearing both of your journeys and how your partners best support you has been invaluable to me. I’ll have a chat with him about peer work and try all of the suggestions in here. Again I really appreciate it ❤️

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Re: Wait what did I come into this thread for again? Oh yeah, ADHD!

Hello @clh1 How are you going today xx

Hugs @amber22 , @Former-Member ❤

With my husband with many diagnosis over the years including adhd and the latest is bipolar 2

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