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Recovering from our Lowest of Lows.

Recovering from our Lowest of Lows.

Hello @Former-Member , @Adge , @Shaz51 , @Judi9877 , @outlander , @Snowie , @Zoe7 , @frog , @eth , @MDT , @pinklollipop15 , @NatureLover , @Sophia1 , @LostAngel , @Gwynn , @Teej , @Faith-and-Hope , @Mazarita , @Emelia8 , @Anastasia

and any other interested members

There is an Online Peer Group Chat planned for next

Thursday 17 February 22

on

Recovering from our Lowest of Lows.

Thought that we may be able to establish some discussion prior to the event. Possibly stimulate thoughts of some ideas that we have used that have been useful and that may be of help to others.

Any other thoughts?

With Best Wishes

@HenryX

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Re: Recovering from our Lowest of Lows.

Hello @RedHorse

and

@LiveInHope1, @Anastasia , @Gwynn , @BlueBay

and other members visiting this thread

I share your sentiments with the issue of keeping up with group chats @RedHorse due to technical issues and the format. And that, in spite of me having the use of a computer. The flow in chats seems very disjointed and I feel that, when a contribution is offered, the flow of discussion seems to have made the point offered unrelated to what is then being asked or discussed. Because of this, I do prefer the discussion that can be generated in a thread.

I recently used the analogy of "hitting the nail square on the head" and your comments also come under that umbrella. Your contribution is very relevant and a useful addition to the discussion.

Like you, there are regular cycles in the way I am feeling and the very fact that you have affirmed the value of the thread, for you, gives me reassurance and encouragement that is also uplifting for me, right now, at a time when I feel that I have been "losing ground" this morning and early afternoon. So your comments have been almost instantaneously valuable for me, as I hope they will also be for others.

And that fits in with your next comment about mutual and reciprocal support for each other. Activity in the forum can be a source of encouragement and affirmation. It can also give us a feeling of purposefulness through offering support and encouragement to others.

Just participating and interacting with others, particularly those with whom we form a type of mutually supportive communication, is the essence, I think, of what the forum is about. Sometimes, when we feel that we have the extra capacity, we can extend what we offer to others with whom we have not yet built such a positive foundation.

For my part, I am really pleased that you have found your activity on the forum to have been sufficiently supportive and encouraging to have had such a positive affect on your sense of self and situation, to the extent that you have been able to recover to a better place because of your participation and involvement here.

Thank you so very much for the positive affirmation and encouragement that you have offered in your post. It means a great deal to me, personally, as I hope it will also do for others.

With My Sincere Appreciation and Very Best Wishes

@HenryX

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Re: Recovering from our Lowest of Lows.

Hi @Anastasia

I just wanted to reach out to offer you some support 💜

I’m so deeply sorry to hear about the first time that your boy was in hospital and I can’t even begin to imagine the magnitude of the pain associated with the uncertainty of not knowing if he would survive 💜

Given everything that you’ve described, it’s absolutely no wonder that you found yourself ‘teetering on the edge’ and I’m so sorry to hear that this is how you’re feeling now 💜

In my experience, when we’re emotionally depleted and stretched beyond our capacity, finding the emotional reserves to face another day can take everything that we have and as such, it’s completely understandable that your ‘cup is empty’ 💜

As @BlueBay so beautifully articulated, there are so many people who care about you and as such, I just ever so gently wanted to say that we’re here for you if and when you need us 💜

Please know that I’m thinking of you at such a challenging and distressing time and sending you some very gentle and caring hugs 💜

Take care of yourself,

ShiningStar 💜

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Re: Recovering from our Lowest of Lows.

Oh @ShiningStar thank you for your beautiful message. I keep thinking I just need to pull myself together and that I'm being a "drama queen". I know I'm not, I'm grateful for your kindness and validation.

It's lovely to see you dear friend 🌷

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Re: Recovering from our Lowest of Lows.

Hi @Anastasia

It’s so lovely to hear from you 💜

Oh Anastasia 💜 Thank you so much for your beautiful message 💜

It was my pleasure to reach out to you 💜 As such, I just ever so gently wanted to say that I really value your friendship and that you’ll always have my support 💜

Please know that I’m thinking of you during this time and sending you some very gentle and healing hugs 💜

Take kind and gentle care of yourself,

ShiningStar 💜

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Re: Recovering from our Lowest of Lows.

Your name is very fitting @ShiningStar 🌟

Hugs always dear friend 🤗

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Re: Recovering from our Lowest of Lows.

Hi @HenryX and everyone,

Hazy though the old brain is tonight, I caught sight of this thread and wanted to contribute. I've been in that very low place so many times, many of them not only without support but with people (I say people, I mean various of my exes) actively working against my recovery. Having a bunch of stuff in the ol' toolbox for pulling ourselves out of a hole is vital.

@LiveInHope1, you said "when bad feelings hit, to try to continue on with life as normally as possible, trying not to give too much attention to feelings if you know they are not based in fact". I'd like to expand on and tweak that a little bit. I don't think you mean to ignore the emotion, but I can't vouch for the guy who wrote the book you referenced. Anyway, I want to add some thoughts from Reuben Lowe (a therapist who promotes mindfulness among other things). I discovered this after my worst bout of depression, but from him I got the idea of "the art of allowing". That is, sitting with that feeling - hurt, sadness, dread, whatever. Not engaging with it, not fighting it, not trying to ignore or distract ourselves from it. From that place, acknowledging the feeling - what it is, why it is - then continuing as you said, to do the things we know are good for us. By nature I am a fighter, so that's what I did. What's this sadness business? Hell no, I'm fighting it! I didn't know then that fighting it feeds the emotion, blows it out of proportion. So does engaging with it (at least in non-constructive ways), and so does ignoring it - it just comes back stronger. Allowing it, acknowledging it and letting it just be there as we go about our business lets it eventually pass. My other tweak would be to say dial back responsibilities. "Living life normally" usually means being busy - with work, with jobs and projects, with social stuff. Working out what we can handle and what we can't helps create some mental space. Saying yes to extra shifts when there's enough money to keep food on the table is probably a bad idea. Going to the birthday party of some girl at work you don't even like that much - nah, let's not. Even managing meals - if you can order in or have a frozen meal sometimes to take a break from cooking, that's okay. When things are bad, little shortcuts can be lifesavers.

@RedHorse- first of all, sorry to see you're having a rough time. Secondly, I think I get where you're coming from about the good in participating on the forums. I find that being able to help someone else draws me out of my own troubles, reminds me that I can think in constructive ways, makes me feel useful (especially when I'm not feeling too useful in solving my own problems), and in some cases touches on my own stuff from a whole new perspective that unblocks barriers I'd been having trouble with in my life. You made perfect sense. I hope your participation now is helping you feel a bit better.

I want to add a bit more about making space for yourself. I mean that physically and mentally. I'm afraid I'm going to touch on the topic of minimalism here. I found in my darkest times I'd managed to have items in my possession from times I didn't want to remember, from people who had hurt me - things that just hurt to see or touch or even know were there. Why I still had them, I don't know. I thought I could sell some, but I didn't have the energy to do it. There came a point when I decided to just bin a heap of it, take some to op shops, put big things on the curb for whoever to take away. Best thing I ever did. And when I did, I was able to find things that were lost in the junk that actually had meaning to me. Old earrings I used to love that actually expressed something about me and made me feel good when I wore them. Books I really wanted to read. I felt physically lighter when I did that stuff, it helped my state of mind a lot.

I'll stop now. Except to extend kind thoughts to @Anastasia - sounds like you're in a really hard place right now. Not so long ago I was far from home, allowed only very brief periods (thanks to covid) to see my partner who had just had major surgery that I didn't know for sure he would survive. Not the same as a child, but I have some idea of how that must feel. Sending you some strength.

AFK.

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Re: Recovering from our Lowest of Lows.

Hi @Anastasia

It’s so lovely to hear from you 💜

Thank you so much my beautiful friend 💜

Please know that I’m thinking of you and sending you a multitude of gentle and healing hugs 💜

Take kind and gentle care of yourself,

ShiningStar 💜

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