Henry's Landing Strip & Hangar

Are you going to be ok? @Emelia8

Hello @Emelia8 and @Former-Member

I don't recognise the plane type Emelia, but will have a look around and see if I can find out.

I have prepared the following script to assist members to view, edit and repost an introduction or comment. It may help to print it before using it, or have it open in one browser window while proceeding with the directions in another browser window. While the guide is detailed, I believe that it is not complicated to follow. If you have any questions, please ask and another member or I will offer assistance.

Editing a withdrawn/removed post.

You may already be familiar with this editing process for withdrawn/removed posts. If you are not familiar with it, I hope that it may be helpful for you. If you are so, I hope that the following details will be helpful for others.

With regard to withdrawn/removed posts, if you look in

• “View your profile” under the “Welcome back, {Forum Name}” heading, toward the upper right of the page. Clicking on "View your profile” takes you to the:

• “Forums”, “Member Profile” page. On the right side of the page, under the heading “SETTINGS” is a heading

• “ITEMS FOR EDITING”. Click on that heading, which will bring you to the

• “Unmoderated items” page.

• Ensure that the headings “Items” and “Images” are toggled to grey backgrounds, which will leave the headings “Items For Editing” and “Forums” with white backgrounds.

• You will then be presented with a page with any, or all of your posts that have been withdrawn/removed listed under the word "SUBJECT".

On, or shortly after the time and date that you posted your comment, which will be printed under the heading "POSTED", to the right of the word "SUBJECT";

you will have received an email from Community Managers. The email will have an explanation for the withdrawal of your post. It also indicates, with background highlighting, the text that was considered to not have complied with

Guidelines & Info. This gives you the opportunity of knowing the specific text, in the post, that needs editing and also information that, hopefully, will be helpful for future posts. You can edit the post by clicking the heading of the post, that is under the word "SUBJECT" on the “Unmoderated items” page and re-post your edited comment, or leave it and not re-post it, as you wish.

I have had to go through this process a few times. Once was because I included in my post, the name of a city that I occasionally visit, of nearly 30,000 people, that is 2 hours drive from where I live. The withdrawal was, presumably, because with that information, I might somehow have been able to be identified. I write that because the reason for withdrawal of a post can sometimes be very simple, or it can involve a section of text.

In the case above, rather than challenging the decision, I simply removed the name and postcode of the city and, with problem solved, re-posted the comment. The post was to do with the procedure for booking vaccinations, so I considered it was worth adjusting and re-posting. Whatever you do, you will hopefully be more informed about what is considered to meet guidelines and can either challenge the decision or simply edit and then re-post the comment.

Hope that this might be of help,

With My Best Wishes

@HenryX

Yes thanks @Former-Member I will be okay. Off to bed now. Good night. 🌸

Thank you @HenryX for the info on editing posts removed by moderators. Yes I do know how to do it. 😄 But I suspect others may find it helpful.

Sometimes you just throw your arms up in the air, and think 'why bother'? A lot of the time I think things are removed based on one persons interpretation of the rules at any given time. Another will see it differently.

Night night @Emelia8 and thanks for your message @HenryX
It's been a tough day. How was your day?

Hello @Former-Member

Thank you for your message. This morning I conducted the Remembrance Day Service at 11.00 am with a gathering afterward for a cuppa and chat. Very small where I am, about 50 people attended with students from the local schools participating as well.

After that I had some lunch and a discussion with the counsellor after lunch. I am pleased with the way that we are able to work together. Addressing some issues that are still affecting life for me. They will probably never be completely gone, but by working on them, I believe that I can reduce the negative affect that they have on my life. In this way, I will be able to make the most of the years, that I have in front of me, more pleasant and productive.

Following that discussion, I spoke with a fellow who is the local contact for some assistance to repair some of the damage following the cyclone. We are still having problems with accessing builders and materials fo repair work. The damage done here has affected an area as large as Victoria. Consequently, there has been a huge demand for building trades people and materials, both of which are still in short supply.

Then I came home and have been at the computer for the afternoon. We had an online discussion/chat with some of the community guides which was for about 1 1/2 hours.

Now I'm just catching up with Notifications and messages.

How has your day been, @Former-Member ?

I'm glad it went well with your counselling @HenryX

My dad was only 19 when he was in the war. I have a photo of him in the freezing snow looking out for the enemy. I look back and realise that he had PTSD. He was such a kind and caring man. It's hard to think about it. Are you ok tonight? I don't think I can stay awake much longer, but please know that I care.

Thank you @Former-Member

Yes I'm fine at the moment. I appreciate you asking. Thank you. We all seem to have some connection with people who have been in some sort of military conflict. Often times in the past, the issues and after effects were unknown or not understood. Unfortunately, our understanding cannot change what people have experienced, but it can allow us to interact with those people affected in a more empathic and understanding way.

I noticed that you were talking with Emelia about a show and I think that you asked me If I had seen it. which show was that?

@HenryX

Gosh! I'm not sure @HenryX Ill have to read back

Hello to members visiting the "Hangar".

{Longish Post ~1630 words}

Following the brief description referring to the "Short Flying Boat" is an article that gives an interesting insight into "Flying Boats" and the lifestyle associated with them from the 1930's through to the Last flights from Rose Bay, Sydney in 1974. I find it interesting that I was in Sydney in the early 70's and, despite my interest in these aircraft, knew nothing of the fact that there were still flights from Rose Bay. I really wasn't in the set of people who could afford that type of luxury either. Notice that the name on the side of the aircraft, behind the Australian flag, in the fifth graphic down, a colour lithograph, is "Cooee", which is the name by which the plane in this photograph is identified ---

The reference to "Short" is not a reference to its relative length, but signifies that these aircraft were designed and built by a business named "Short Brothers".

Short Brothers plc, usually referred to as Shorts or Short, is an aerospace company based in Belfast, Northern Ireland. Shorts was founded in 1908 in London, and was the first company in the world to make production aeroplanes.[1] It was particularly notable for its flying boat designs manufactured into the 1950s.

In 1943 Shorts was nationalised and later denationalised, and in 1948 moved from its main base at Rochester, Kent to Belfast. In the 1960s, Shorts mainly produced turboprop airliners, major components for aerospace primary manufacturers, and missiles for the British Armed Forces.

Shorts was primarily government-owned until being bought by Bombardier in 1989, and is today the largest manufacturing concern in Northern Ireland.[2] In November 2020, Bombardier sold its Belfast operations to Spirit AeroSystems.[3]

The company's products include aircraft components, engine nacelles and aircraft flight control systems for its parent company Bombardier Aerospace, and for Boeing, Rolls-Royce Deutschland, General Electric and Pratt & Whitney.[4]

To see more photographs of other "Flying Boats" visit the following website:

https://www.google.com/search?q=flying%20boat&tbm=isch&client=firefox-b-d&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCUQtI8BKANqFwoTCOCT0I6hkPQCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAI&biw=1139&bih=563

Flying Boats: Sydney's Golden Age of Aviation

©

VH -BRF coming in to alight on the lagoon, Lord Howe Island (detail), D. Morris, 1974. Photo courtesy Margaret Holle, © D. Morris

The 1930s were widely considered aviation’s ‘golden’ age, a time when modernity and luxury combined to define an era in world travel that will almost certainly never be repeated. In Australia the Empire flying boat became a symbol of this era, carrying passengers to many exotic locations around the world in a journey of unprecedented airborne luxury.

The establishment of the Rose Base flying boat base and this golden age were explored in Flying boats: Sydney’s golden age of aviation exhibition at the Museum of Sydney.

At the end of 1934 the British Government decided to implement an air service that would deliver mail to every country in the Commonwealth at a standard rate. Flying boats were the ideal transport as they could carry much larger freight loads than the land-based aircraft of the time. They were also able to alight and take off from any reasonably large body of calm water, so were capable of making the frequent stops that flying long distances required. Imperial Airways, then Britain’s major airline, commissioned Short Brothers to build a large, long-range flying boat, known as the ‘Short Empire’. With the assistance of the Australian Government, Qantas Empire Airways ordered six of the aircraft and, in May 1938, the airline moved its rapidly expanding operations from Brisbane to Sydney.

The harbourside suburb of Rose Bay was selected as the site for Australia’s first international airport, primarily because it was a large bay with calm water located close to the city. Other sites considered were Rushcutters Bay and Botany Bay. The latter had been a highly favoured option due to its proximity to the aerodrome at Mascot, but a water airport at Botany Bay would have required building a breakwater, estimated to cost £60,000. At the time, many major cities around the world already possessed water airports, or marine air terminals as they were called in the United States. To fly internationally in the 1930s travellers would most likely depart from a water airport in a flying boat, and it was not until after World War II that commercial land airports and their aircraft became more widely used.

As well as mail, Empire flying boats could carry up to 14 passengers and with a flight time of only ten days from Rose Bay to Southampton compared to more than 40 days by sea, they began to rival ships as a popular form of transport. Flying boats provided a first class only service (this was long before the advent of ‘economy’ class) – out of reach of most Australians as a ticket cost the equivalent of an annual salary.

This article draws on the exhibition Flying Boats: Sydney's Golden Age of Aviation on display at the Museum of Sydney from 10 May to 14 September 2008 and was written by Matthew Holle, Exhibition Curator. Photo © Sydney Living Museums.

Flying boats provided a first class only service (this was long before the advent of ‘economy’ class) – out of reach of most Australians as a ticket cost the equivalent of an annual salary. Qantas promotional image Courtesy Qantas Heritage Collection. Card game, Empire flying boat. Photographer unknown, c1938. Russell Roberts Pty Ltd.

The harbourside suburb of Rose Bay was selected as the site for Australia’s first international airport

Travellers in the 1930s were used to the comforts of a large ship. On the flying boats they experienced what it was like to ‘sail the skies’. Indeed, Short Brothers, the company who built the Empires, claimed ‘We don’t build aircraft that float, we build ships that fly’. Empire flying boats contained a promenade cabin, galley, wine cellar and plenty of space to stroll about and socialise, as seen in the many onboard photographs featured in the exhibition. The Empires cruised at just 150 miles per hour and usually no higher than 5000 feet. The promenade cabin featured windows at standing height so passengers could take in the view as the landscape and oceans below passed serenely by.

The Empires introduced the first ever in-flight service and although there were no cooking facilities on board, passengers did not want for anything. A typical breakfast consisted of grapefruit, steak and pineapple juice, while lunch could be ham, salad and strawberry ice cream – all served by smartly dressed stewards. Passengers also enjoyed generous servings of fresh Hawkesbury oysters. The flying boats did not operate during the night, so the voyage from Australia to England required nine overnight stops. Passengers stayed at luxury hotels, such as Raffles in Singapore, or in accommodation built specially by the airline.

The Skyways are Today's Highways' Walter Jardine for Qantas Empire Airways, colour lithograph, 1939, Australian War Memorial © Qantas

Fly Q.E.A. and B.O.A.C. maker unknown, colour lithograph, 1948 Powerhouse Museum, Sydney © Qantas

The short cut to the colourful east, Qantas Empire Airways Harry J Weston, colour lithograph, 1939, Powerhouse Museum, Sydney © Qantas

All this luxury disappeared with the outbreak of World War II in September 1939. Needing aircraft capable of long-range operations, the Australian Government impressed a number of Empire flying boats into service with the RAAF. By 1944 all the Empires that had seen service had either crashed or been destroyed by enemy fire and by 1948 there was only one Empire remaining in Australia – it was broken up for scrap in January of that year.

The war also saw the arrival in Australia of the Catalina, perhaps the best-known and most loved flying boat of all. Catalinas were long range patrol bombers and undertook many dangerous night-time flights mining Japanese harbours. They also kept the air route to Europe open after the fall of Singapore by flying epic nonstop flights from Perth to Ceylon (Sri Lanka). It is ironic that the same war that saw flying boats serve with such distinction was also the catalyst for their demise. The massive building works of both airstrips and land-based aircraft undertaken during the war resulted in the marginalisation of the flying boats, which were more expensive to maintain. New technology meant that seaplanes were no longer larger and faster than land-based aircraft.

Although the postwar years saw the worldwide demise of flying boats, Sydney remained uniquely placed to take advantage of their waterborne capabilities. With air travel becoming more affordable, the Rose Bay flying boats set their sights on Australia's east coast and surrounding South Pacific destinations.

Many Sydney residents enjoyed travelling on the flying boats for holidays to Hayman Island; two-week South Seas 'cruises' to Fiji, Noumea and the Cook Islands; charters to Lake Eucumbene near the Snowy Mountains; and trips to Lord Howe Island. Thousands of Sydneysiders holidayed on this island, many returning year after year. Some travellers met for the first time there and returned as married couples on honeymoon. The journey to Lord Howe Island on the flying boat was an integral part of their holiday experience.

By the early 1970s increasing maritime traffic on Sydney Harbour had resulted in the restriction of flying boat services and only two of the aircraft remained at the Rose Bay base. After an airstrip was built on Lord Howe Island in 1974, the two remaining flying boats were sold off and finished their working days in the Caribbean. When the flying boat base closed that same year, a unique chapter in Sydney's history came to an end.

Matthew Holle was the curator of the Flying Boats exhibition.

Flying boats: Sydney's golden age of aviation

Saturday 10 May 2008 - Sunday 14 September 2008

Museum of Sydney

With Best Wishes

@HenryX

Hi @Former-Member

Your question was in the message following the photograph of Emelia's brother's two seater plane.

Cheers, @HenryX