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Religiously and spiritually traumatised. Need support.

Religiously and spiritually traumatised. Need support.

I know all here can only give what they got. I need someone to have straight talk with me. I've told a few people and most don't seem to bat an eyelid. That's cause they don't know how it feels to be me or have gone through what I have.

This is very sensitive, traumatic, complex and very difficult for me to talk about. I need to though, I'm battling too much on my own. No one has really helped me yet and I'm waiting to start therapy. I feel so alone and I'm tired of advocating for myself and by myself. I have no strength left. I really don't.

I was subjected to religious and satanic abuse as a child. I didn't like the church or the religion nor any religious topics. As a child I had no choice but to be involved as the disgusting people called parents were part of it. There was religious abuse going on for me going on at home too. It was traumatic and very damaging and has continued on for me. Very hard to ever really recover fully from that happening. I'm still very affected by it today even though I've tried things to heal. It's not even easy. I feel that I will never fully heal. The disgusting people called parents I no longer have anything to do with and neither of them are in my life nor do I have any extended family. It's just me now.

So, I am almost 42 now. I recently ended a relationship I was in with a woman. (Same sex and yes I'm gay) Have been for a long time. She knew a little, not all of what I expressed above in this post. Enough to know that what she chose to do would have serious repercussions for me. I don't believe she truly cares that it would.

I received these text messages from her on the 26th August.

I have something to tell you

Later.

It's about the fallen angle Luc....fer

I'm sorry I held it from you

I have been fighting for my life for 100 years

And I will always be fighting against my brother Lucy

Most known as Luc...fer

He is what he is but still my brother and untill I can take him home with me I am bound here, a promise I made to God.

Im sorry

He is my younger brother I call him little Lucien

I'm sorry pls forgive me

They were four different messages.

At the time it happened, I pushed away what I was feeling or thinking. I've been trying to process this event and experience. I thought at the time that perhaps she had been affected badly by something like myself. Even though the relationship was finished, I still had a hard time letting go completely. I'm aware that I was in a highly abusive relationship, I am aware things weren't right and I never truly felt safe. It took me alot to break free. By ending the relationship it doesn't mean I was free. I was not free from the major harm and extensive damage caused. I was so very very confused, I was in a serious fog and also very tired physically and mentally. I was extremely close to taking my life. I went into suicide watch as I was not able to control my thoughts to end my life. All up I have had a friend stay with me for a month. My only friend and the truest friend I have had in a very long time. My guard is still up, even with my friend. I watch if I'm letting my guard down a bit too much because right now I can't afford to. I have to protect the very tiny bit of will I have left to live and of course I'm in a very vulnerable position.

So, yes just that experience alone plagues me every single day. It's hard not to think about. I guess I'm trying to put it into some sort of perspective for myself because in my head, heart and soul it feels like torture. I also do not believe in this mythical evil creature. That's my right and my choice. It was part of my religious abuse I went through. I don't know what to believe about it anymore. I definitely have reached the conclusion she is extremely mentally unwell. With what I do not know? I've also reached the devastating and sickening conclusion that there was a part of her that was aware of what she was saying and doing. Why she would do that to me, I have not worked out? I wish I knew so I could be helped to process it and move forward a bit more. I feel so stuck. It feels complex and I'm still trying to deal with my feelings that can be hard to access and feel for me. I strongly feel that what she did was an act of cruelty. I can't just say to myself, oh she is mentally unwell. I can't just excuse what she did like that. It's not an excuse. I also have an inkling there is much more to what she did and I don't have the full picture yet.

What I also found out is she watches that series on TV called Luc....fer. I've never watched it and don't care to watch it ever. I guess I'm correlating it with what I went through but still not able to solve this puzzle.

Maybe, I'm not ready for the full picture because this has really tormented my mind and soul so much. Yet, she still maintains to this day she is in love with me, that she loves me and she doesn't want anyone else. I'm her forever. I feel sick really.

I've changed my phone number. Delisted it. Blocked on all my forms of social media and emails. I also have video security at my home now. I still don't feel safe. I want to have like a whole new alias. I'm scared that I have not done all I can to protect myself technology wise. It's hard. After all anyone can make multiple accounts using different names and new email addresses. I just never really feel safe. I have NO communication at all with her. On one of my email addresses I have no option to block, only set up a rule to divert emails from her elsewhere. Last night, she emailed me a song. Just a song, that is it. A song by Michael Jackson - I just can't stop loving you. I know the lyrics. I don't want to ever hear that song in my life.

So, I am waiting to start therapy. Suicide therapy to be exact. I don't want to approach and church about what happened, I don't want to talk about it on a spiritual level at all either. I don't have anyone I truly feel I can turn to, feel safe, heard, have compassion understanding and kindness shown to me. It's also so crazy, that most of the time I think who would believe me anyway. Thankfully I have the texts to prove what I'm saying is true. If it had just been verbal, then yes perhaps many would doubt I'm telling the truth.

I've been trying to do some research to get some answers for me. I havn't had any success yet. I do not want to feel so tormented anymore. It's so hard to keep reminding myself too that when I think of a good moment between her and me that we had, I come back to this and other things she did and said and then I go back into confusion. It seemed those good moments were real, they were to me but I don't think they were real to her.

Some of you here may be religious. No offence intended to you, however I have strong boundaries there with that because of what I have been through in my life. I respect your choices, yet just keep the religious beliefs you have to yourself. It will harm me greatly and I need that boundary respected for me.

I hate her for what she did. As I said I think there was a part of her that was conscious of what she was doing. I'm still scared because I'm trying to hold onto my life when I really just don't want to. Living through this is just too much. I hate her. Ive lost so much because of her. I'm struggling to even see a future for me.

This might also be a difficult topic for others. I'm even losing hope now that anyone is even going to care about this. I've actually lost alot of hope. When one loses hope, I know it's pretty much the end of many things. Been there before When I cut contact with my mother, I'd reached that place of no hope left. I still don't feel hope there. That was December 2019 and I've never heard from her except last year an email saying happy birthday but that's all. I didn't care that much about it because she ruined most of my birthday's to. Other than that she doesn't get in touch with me at all.

So, yeah just losing hope and don't have any desire to try rekindle it.

Moderators, I have numbers to call if need be before you ask and offer.

Anyone that wants to suggest a hospital stay, I will just say no prior to that question. I just don't want to really be around people much with pressure to have to do anything at a certain time and to talk. Fine in my own home.

I just want to know where to look online for something that I can read that may be able to give me some clues or answers as to what the hell is wrong with this sick individual and what the hell has even happened to me a result. If you don't understand something, how are you actually meant to deal with it?

PF

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@NatureLover

I'm so glad I just took time out to rest yesterday afternoon and last night. I had a rough night feeling quite ill, however I think very slowly on the mend.

Hmmmm...yes the restraining order. Been grappling with this for a long time. It's a serious legal document to be issued on someone. I've been torn for a month. Worrying on a soul level what repercussions there will be. I know it needs to be done as I can't take risks anymore with my safety. It's not easy for me though.

I havn't thought much about my session yesterday. I still feel very overwhelmed 90% of the time. That's going to take a while to sort through. In saying that I have noticed I have started to take some of my power and control back. It actually feels good. I bad absolutely no control or power in the relationship and when I did exert it Is was abused further. Disgusting really. Shameful.

Hmmmm... Yes, very difficult talking about my shitty childhood. A lot of pain there and so still have constant flashbacks which I dislike going through. It's exhausting to pull yourself back every time and sometimes difficult.

I'm really happy for you that you haven't felt suicidal for 23 years now. It's a terrible affliction. Horrible place to be.

Thank you for writing.

PF

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@Appleblossom

Hey Apple.

Usually I am Ok with discussing religion vs spirituality. As I've been retraumatised it has set me back again. I feel very angry about it as I worked my butt off to try release some of what I went through. Because of someone else's complete lack of care and deep selfishness, evil and cruelty I am suffering again. However, she will suffer for the rest of her life and mine is temporary. Not my problem.

I am glad you found things to help you through. Spirituality is seperate from religion imho.

Unfortunately there is a rise in satanic crap that the world could have always done without.

Thanks for writing Apple.

PF

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@AussieRecharger

You bought up some really interesting things to ponder on.

You are correct, it was alot to express. In the relationship I was in, I was shut down pretty much every day from expressing myself. It caused alot of problems and damage. It made me shit down so much more. I didn't see the point in expressing anything anymore. I was either shut down, ignored completely for what I had said or what I said wasn't even acknowledged and she just kept on talking. I really bated it all so much. I had huge fights with her over it. The fights never made any difference. Many times I wish the fights actually would make her wake up to herself and stop doing all of that. It never happened. Yes, I am out of it now, very recent though.

As for fear, well that's a different story. Psychologically when you experience so much dear in a relationship and you leave the relationship for good, I can tell you that your mind takes its time to readjust to not living in fear. You are always on alert, always on guard, you don't get a lot of rest. It's like trying to pre plan for what's to come. I remember times that I was by myself which was rare, that if I did something there were thoughts, oh no she is going to be missed I've done this. Nothing really to be pissed about actually, bit she would be. I would be thinking how am I going to manage the situation and what us possibly coming? I look at it now and feel so fu...ing angry.

So, even though slowly I'm having my control and power back again, the psychological damage takes time to sort and work through.

I'm not ready to talk about anything in specific or tell my story. I know I am not. I know I'm not well and I need so much more recovery time. I'm hurting for me. Really hurting that this happened to me. Hurting and angry.

PF

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Re: Religiously and spiritually traumatised. Need support.

Hi @Powderfinger ,

I hear your hurt and anger. They are difficult emotions to work through, and personally took me a long time overcome. Just remember to be kind to yourself as you have already endured so much, and it is also okay to not be ready to tell your story. We are here with you in your recovery.

from cloudcore

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@cloudcore

Yes, they are difficult. Of course there are more emotions on top of that. There is even grief. I havn't worked out why that is just yet. It will come. The anger is the most dominant emotion out of them all. I feel angry that there are no consequences for the things she has done and no consequences for the things I have gone through and continue to go through. I had to give up two really good opportunities that I was so excited about because of her stalking. I feel very angry about that. There is so much I feel angry about. I actually lost quite a bit due to her. I gave so much and lost so much.

Thanks for understanding about not being ready to share my story.

PF

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Hey @Powderfinger

I am grateful you replied and I just want to let you know that you can always tag me if you do feel like talking, I don't need to know what happened, it's more about how it's impacting you that I will try to help with.

I do want to ask what kind of support you are looking for at this point in time, just in case I know of something that might be what you are looking for...

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@AussieRecharger

Thank you, that's kind of you. I will tag you in future posts to this thread.

It's a question I ask myself every day. What support do I need? Sometimes, I don't actually even know. I'm not out of the woods yet. Still got so much going on in my head and life. I guess for now, I will say I wrote my ex an "email letter". Not sent...yet. I told her the truth about her and saying I know the truth now. Saying, I didn't do this email for you, I did it for me. It's kind of like a letter to the person who abused you and affected your life and you so very badly. I was going to send it on the day I go to court for the restraining order. Before I go to court.

I'm not sure if I'm going to send it yet? I also feel invisible most of the time. Nobody can see inside you and interpret what's going on. Nobody can read your mind either to see and know what you are thinking and feeling. I've pretty much just shut down. It doesn't mean nothing is going on. Perhaps so can't even cope with my own thoughts and feelings?

In the relationship, I was always shut down by her. I was very expressive in actions and words in regards to the way I did love her. I think I'm do shut down because I was shut down alot, manipulated, not listened to and so on. Another part to it is because of deep hurt and still shock at how someone I truly did love do very much did the things she did and tested me the way she did. It hurts and at the same time I feel disturbed that she was like this.

But swore black and blue till two days ago that she is deeply in love with me and doesn't want to be without me. I see it for what it is now. All that really means is she can't find anyone else yet to abuse and to love her like I did. I cannot and do not believe she loves me at all. Love does not do all the things she did to me. It's just more lies. Clearly she feels she hasn't done enough damage yet. I just cut her off and I'm getting a restraining order now.

Just don't feel good tonight.

PF

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Not feeling good today. Overwhelmed by having to face a busy day with things that can't be cancelled. I'm struggling so much psychologically. Feeling alone in what I've been through and going through. Very lonely. I want to cry but I stop myself because there is no one to comfort me and that will bring up more hurt. I won't be able to cope.

Going to police station this morning to go over the restraining order application. Trying just to manage with this one thing when I'm not doing well. It's hard people around me are so oblivious to me and what's going on for me. I can't pretend I'm on top of the world. If someone around me is happy, I just say I'm happy for you and then I just feel I want to be alone because I feel they are blind. They also don't like emotions which irritates me. That's not my problem. So, I feel like being alone even more but desperately wanting someone just to reach out to me and not run from seemingly difficult conversations.

Please don't suggest strategies. I have them. They are not always applicable when you feel lower than 6 feet underground.

PF

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Hey @Powderfinger, that's so much to be going through, particularly when it sounds like there aren't people in your life you can freely and comfortably speak to about it.

Sending lots of gentle care, support and understanding through it all

Please ignore this if this is something you've already considered- but you mentioned wanting to cry, yet ultimately not wanting to because there wouldn't be anyone to comfort you, which could make things worse. If you wanted to cry and receive support, a counsellor or peer worker (from SANE or elsewhere) could provide that safe space and comfort for you?

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Hi @Powderfinger ,

I recognise that today is a difficult day for you. It's completely understandable that you would need someone who will listen and sit with you, rather than provide advice or send you elsewhere for answers. That can feel really dismissive.

How did you go this morning with your trip to the police station?

from cloudcore

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