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In a crisis state, trying desperately to stabilize

In a crisis state, trying desperately to stabilize

Hello

This is my first post, I have a long history of mental illness (as a child, ADD, then OCD developed as a teen and now OCD and severe anxiety spectrum symptoms). I am in my middle/late thirties and am stuck in some sort of panic/anxiety cycle. Every morning I wake with panic and the day is usually a roller coaster of emotion (anxiety, then may feel good, then feelings of unreality, then depression, then optimism again - not necessarily in that order). I am a fulltime student and I've had to drop to part time due to the agrophobia and ups and downs. I have underlying emotional issues and various stressors but I have a feeling that part of this is due to my medication. I think specifics are not allowed to be mentioned but medication classes are am I correct? I have been on one SSRI low dose since 2013 for the anxiety, my GP wants to wean me off it and try another brand of SSRI because sometimes this restarts effectiveness. My main problem I think, is that I am definitely tolerant and maybe slightly physiologically dependent and definitely psychologically dependent to the most common prescribed drug in the benzodiazipine class. It was prescriped to me for the first time in 2013 to use only as needed not everyday because it is highly addictive. At first it was a god send. It showed me that my terrifying symptoms were just Anxiety and not a serious illness (although ironically - anxiety can be more debilitating than a serious illness). But it was my only strategy to beat a panic attack. This is a serious mistake - natural means are the best way to deal with anxiety although they take ages to learn (haven't learnt yet). I became tolerant and I needed more of the medication to have the same effect however - I was not given more just a box every two months. Anyway to cut a long story short, I want to get completely off this poison to see if it is the factor that has destabilized me. I am on a low to moderate dose taken once every three days on average. My plan is to take the lowest dose daily to see if the ups and downs stabilize and then taper very slowly over 5 months off. I want to cold Turkey but after 5 days I seem to have very bad panic. Anyways, I am very sensitive to meds - I had something called activation syndrome from another brand of SSRI's that ruined my career and marriage.

So anyway, I was scared of my plan but the anxiety is so crippling that I think it can only improve (knock on wood!!). Today I begin it and see what happens. I wish to go the psychological route to recovery, it is initially the hardest and isn't a quick fix but long term it is the answer, I believe.

Please excuse spelling and grammar, this was typed on a circa 2011 Android phone with a small screen.

If my experience resonates with others, or you can see a factor in my story that I am missing that may assist recovery, please advise, I would be much appreciated. In return I can try to assist others on this forum if something resonates with me.

Thanks for reading.

Dothemo

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Re: In a crisis state, trying desperately to stabilize

Hi @Dothemo

Welcome to the Forums! Thanks for sharing a bit of your experience with us. 🙂

Indeed, anxiety can be extremely debilitating and I think it is often dismissed as being one of the "less severe" mental health issues people face. However, anxiety falls on a spectrum and for those who suffer more on the severe end, it can be just as much of a struggle as anything else. What do others think?

You sound very motivated to try and break away from the medication dependency you've developed over the years. We are here to support you! I wonder - Are you working with your GP or psychiatrist throughout this weaning process? I hope so, as it can be dangerous to experiment with medication without their consulation. Do you have other strategies you find helpful when you cannot rely so much on medication? If not, I'm sure we as a community could brainstorm some ideas together. It sounds like you're thinking about linking in with a psychologist in the near future, as a new avenue for treatment and support? Have you ever tried this before?

Look forward to hearing more of your story. Take care.

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Re: In a crisis state, trying desperately to stabilize

@Dothemo. I can relate with some of what you have mentioned here. Depression and anxiety is my diagnosis. I used to have terrifying panic attacks. But haven't had one since early this year.
A couple of things I would like to mention:
Firstly, if you plan to increase, reduce or stop any medication, please do it under the supervision of your doctor. Side effects of withdrawal can be quite serious and it would be awful for you to get sick when the aim is to get better.
Secondly, it may be good to learn some coping techniques via a psychologist while you are reducing your medication. This will give you more chance of success.
Yes therapy does take time. But certain calming techniques can be learnt quite quickly.
For example - I was taught a simple breathing exercise - of slowly breathing in (your tummy will rise) & then slowly breathing out (your tummy will reduce). Breathing into the tummy. You repeat this in breath and out breath. You only need to focus on your breath. I practiced this twice a day. It really helps when anxiety hits, as you can slow your breath down.
Something else that helps is doing a simple relaxation exercise that you can download from the net. Even 5 minutes of this can help.
Have a look on the net on relaxation exercises and see what you can find.
But a good therapist can help you further with your healing.
I wish you all the best

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Re: In a crisis state, trying desperately to stabilize

Hello @Dothemo

I have had long term (decades) struggles with anxiety and panic.. but been trying to manage them with minimum meds and using psychological techniques in my own bemused quirky way.

Regularity and stable structures were the best for me .. Mediation or yoga and tai chi exercise & postures & stretches ... so that I keep grounded in my body and dont dissociate.

Over the years, I have worked on my issues re cardio .. fitness ... and blood pressure and hypertension ... and seeing how the numbers on them stacked up ... against my subjective mood states. So I am pretty clear about my triggers these days.

I just had a heart rate and sweat event generated by house cleaning... so that was safe .. not crazy and all good ... except that it is after 2 in the morning ... hmmmm ... Next year might be the year that I become less of an owl ....

Not sure I can add much .. just saying hello .. and letting you know .. I think you are doing the right thing.

When in crisis ... ensure essentials are managed ... and find a cocoon that works for you.

Take care

Apple

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Re: In a crisis state, trying desperately to stabilize

Hi folks, <br><br>Thankyou so much for the replies. I know I posted this six months ago but I was in such a chaotic state I posted and didn't return then. <br><br>Well, I was right it was definitely Benzodiazepine dependence and I am now 2 months free of Benzodiazepine. My nervous system hasn't recovered properly yet but at least I'm not in a constant panic state. <br><br>I'm kind of left to pick up the pieces now but I don't know how. I'm very secluded in my flat now and feel flat and depressed. I don't particularly know how to proceed with recovery. Should I post another post?

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Re: In a crisis state, trying desperately to stabilize

Hi @Dothemo,

you are welcome to post again with a new topic or just keep on posting here, under your current discussion thread.

I also suffer from anxiety and I think i might have been addicted to the same medication as you, at one point.

I am wondering if you see a psychologist? Your doctor may be able to refer you to one who has a special interest in anxiety. Although anxiety is very common, it can also be very debilitating, as I have discovered. It's best to talk things over face to face with someone who really has a good grip on what you are going through, I've found.

Social interaction is important, too - are you tentatively able to reconnect with old friends?

I find deep breathing, yoga and relaxation exercises very helpful for my anxiety. You can take a look online for for some of these techniques and watch some instructional videos, if you like.

I also find that taking a walk in nature very calming. I like to go first thing in the morning when there is no-one much around.

Let us know how you are going.

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Re: In a crisis state, trying desperately to stabilize

Hi Sahara, thank you for the thoughts. I am sorry you had an addiction to Benzodiazepine too but I'm happy that you overcame it - that is encouraging for me to know that long term overall recovery is possible. I am seeing a psychologist but unfortunately it's very slow going. He is going to start "Schema therapy" but it's taking a while to eventuate. I'm going to see him again on the 10th of January. I see him once fortnightly but I am finding this too long a period in between appointments. I shall try your walking suggestion, part of my problem atm is staying in bed till 1pm which is depressing, maybe I can try getting up early? Thank you

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Re: In a crisis state, trying desperately to stabilize

Hi again, @Dothemo,

if you are laying in bed awake but not feeling motivated to get up, then I think you should really try as best you can to get out of bed and make some kind of start on your day. I've noticed that getting up and doing almost any activity - even if it is just the laundry, does tend to relieve anxiety a bit. It's the physical action of doing something, anything, that is a distraction and a help to me.

If however, you are sleeping until 1 pm, then maybe don't try and change your routine too suddenly. Maybe set your alarm for half an hour earlier for several days and adjust to this time, then gradually start setting the alarm a bit earlier each few days. Go easy on yourself, @Dothemo.

Maybe be careful of too much caffeine (coffee and tea and cola) in the afternoons and evenings. This might be keeping you awake and delaying your natural sleeping time.... so you end up sleeping in the next day.

I had schema therapy, too! It was an eye-opener for me and I found out some interesting things about myself.

Sometimes I think that understanding anxiety, the process in takes in your body and where and how it originates can lessen the anxiety, as it becomes less of a mystery. Anxiety is a very physical process that unfortunately effects the mind in it's course. This is something you might like to discuss with your psychologist.

Write any time, @Dothemo.

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Re: In a crisis state, trying desperately to stabilize

Thanks heaps for those tips Sahara,

Hmm I can definitely set my alarm, I will use the old style alarm clock, I find that my mobile phone just makes me stay in bed longer because I incessantly surf the net in bed.

That is an awesome coincidence that you had Schema therapy too. Did you find that it helped with depression? Did it make things better overall?

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@Dothemo,

schema therapy helped me to understand where some of my ingrained thoughts and beliefs came from. We all hold certain beliefs that are with us from a very young age. They are somewhat subconscious- we don't really think about them or question them. I suppose that if we had to think about these beliefs then we would kind of just assume that everyone felt the same way. They manifest in thoughts like "well, that's the way the world is."

Wrong!!

The world is actually a certain way for certain people because of their deep set, unquestioned beliefs. Sort of hard to explain.

But if you are habitually depressed and anxious, then it may help to learn and understand the beliefs you hold to be true. Schema therapy helps you to do this. It can then help your therapist to help you.

Yes, I believe it did help me to overcome my depression, but then again, I did lots of other things, too. I took medication, for a start. I tried to exercise and do yoga. I told people who I was close to what I was going though and allowed them to show empathy (where they were able).

I had around 10 years of counselling. It was a bit of a long journey!

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Re: In a crisis state, trying desperately to stabilize

So glad you managed to achieve your goal and have been frre of the dreaded ..B

I have been very cautious with them .. as I already understand .. through hard experience issues of tolerance and dependance with substance use.

Congrats again .. it takes courage to name that demon .. and slowly and persistently manage it.

@Sahara tips are wise .. I would go gently with changes .. not to exacerbate underlying depression ..

I have heard good things about schema therapy .. good luck with it .. but we are all just human ..

no magic pills or bullets.

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