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17 yo refuses help

17 yo refuses help

My daughter is 17 and I'm pretty sure she is suffering from depression and anxiety. She frequently threatens to end it but so far has not made any attempt. Today I haven't gone to work because we had a major episode this morning. It was over something trival and needless but I understand the world looks a lot bleaker from where she sits. Thankfully she is now home and safe for the time being. This has been going on for nearly 2 years. She has made it as far as the GP (1.5 yr ago) and was on anti-depressants which she stopped taking after 6 months. I have tried relentlessly to get her to see a counsellor but she insists 'no counsellor can fix this'. This is causing major disruptoin and upset to myself and the family (including other younger children). Has anyone been through anything similar? What is the best approach? I am getting closer to calling 000 but don't know if this will help at all. Feeling at a loss as to how to improve this dire situation.

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Hi @helephant1969. Your daughter is in danger. She is showing suicidal ideation. This needs to be sorted asap.
Contact your local Community Mental Health Service. Explain everything your daughter has spoken about. Talking about suicide. They will have a youth mental health team. Explain thaf you can't even get her to the gp. They willneed to come to your house to do an aassessment.
Depression and anxiety can be treated. Unfortunately, sometimes you may need to try a few medications first. A mood stabalizer may help her in the short term. But please call a mental health team today. Your family is out of their depth with this. Get professional help now. Good luck. There is light after depression.

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Thank you. I have called them and explained the situation.

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Hi @helephant1969

Welcome to the Forums, I am glad you found us I am Shimmer, one of the moderators here.

Your daughter seems to be going through a really hard time right now. I'm sorry to hear that she has been experiencing feelings of depression and anxiety for the last 2 years.

It's really good that you are encouraging her to seek support so that she can get back on track and feel better. This may involve counselling or medication, or both. The first step is to get her in to see someone. Going through your GP you can get a Mental Health Care Plan for 10 sessions with a counsellor.

headspace is a youth mental health service that works with young people aged 12-25 who are experiencing tough times with their mental health. They are really experienced with engaging young people who might be reluctant to attend counselling. You can look for your local headspace centre through their website and call the Access team, who can help you work out how best to engage your daughter in treatment.

There are also youth specific helplines that also might be able to provide some guidance:

Kids Helpline: 1800 55 1800

eheadspace: 1800 650 890

Parentline: 1300 30 1300

In terms of her talking about suicide, it is important to take what she says seriously and take action, although this may not involve emergency services at this point. There are a few 24/7 crisis numbers that can help give direction about how to manage suicidal thoughts. Here are a couple:

Lifeline: 13 11 14 (or online chat)

Suicide Call Back Service: 1300 659 467 (or online chat)

@helephant1969, it sounds like you are doing a great job in supporting your daughter. I can tell because of the way you describe how "the world looks a lot bleaker from where she sits" - clearly you are very understanding about her perspective on things.

I can appreciate that this would be a challenging time for yourself and your other children as well as your daughter. How are you looking after yourselves?

I see that while I was writing this post you called a mental health service after @utopia's advice - how did that go? Did they give you some direction for your next steps?

Take care,

Shimmer

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Hi Shimmer

Thanks for your reply and all the information. I have already given my daughter the link to Headspace. I don't think she has accessed the service. When she is in a good space, she doesn't think she needs help. When she's in a bad space, she doesn't think anyone can help her. That's when she starts talking the S word.

The local community health service took the details and said someone would call in the next day or so. See how it goes from there. Hopefully someone can come to the house and work some serious magic because this is what it is going to take. I just hope this step doesn't give her even greater cause to hate me and hate herself. One thing is for sure, I can't just sit by and do nothing.

All the best, Helen

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@helephant1969. You are doing the right thing. Your daughter may be angry with you and say she hates you. But better an angry daughter than .....
And she will get over that anger. Once things settle down and she is communicating with headspace or other counselor.
Once she is in therapy, it may be a good idea for you (& your family) to also have some help. The mental health team should be able to give you some information to share with the family on what is happening to your 17 year old.
I wish you all well.

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@helephant1969 wrote:
When she is in a good space, she doesn't think she needs help. When she's in a bad space, she doesn't think anyone can help her.

@helephant1969, the way you describe your daughter's unhelpful beliefs about treatment captures a really common outlook for people experiencing mental health issues, which can be very challenging for carers too.

Your desire for a magic solution is understandable, many people feel the same way! Usually it's not that simple, as the person has to get on board with engaging in treatment and change takes time to happen. However, I do hope that the local community health service does help your daughter take a step in the right direction. Have you heard back from them yet?

If you do end up deciding to contact headspace, you can call as her mother to make the initial referral, then the Access team can speak to your daughter.

Keep us updated with how you're going @helephant1969!

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