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Any diagnosed germophobes or hoarders on this forum?

Any diagnosed germophobes or hoarders on this forum?

Hi, I have just joined. I have a few mental illnesses, but am especially interested in hearing if there are any diagnosed germophobes or people with hoarding disorder on these forums?

I don't know any germophobes in real life, and would be interested to know how any of you pre-Corona germophobes are doing. Can you find enough sanitiser? If not, what are you using instead? Has your germophobia gone sky-high in this pandemic? Do you find it less or more lonely now that nearly everyone is a self-confessed germophobe?

My germophobia is quite bad - I can't have anyone in my house, and need lots of sanitiser when I go out. E.g. I use it after leaving my house and before I get in the car; again before I touch the steering wheel, again after touching my purse, again before putting my seat belt on, etc. I am struggling to find enough sanitiser. If I run out, I was thinking about diluting some disinfectant and putting it into an old water bottle to take out with me. I had one really bad panic lasting 3 days that was debilitating, due to COVID-19, but after that thankfully my germophobia came back down to normal levels. I guess normal levels are not that great but at least I am used to them!

I am strangely finding it more lonely as a diagnosed germophobe now, and would really like to meet some other germophobes online and hear how you're going. At least I had a friend tell me that I was in a stronger position than him, during this health crisis, as he had trouble remembering to wash his hands, whereas I wash them a hundred times a day already!

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im glad that the journalling is helping you @NatureLover thats a good start and bringing your psych appt forward sounds like a good idea too. 👍

What did you get up to today?

im waiting for the counsellor now. it wont be too much longer now before she connects my line.

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@outlander wrote:
im waiting for the counsellor now. it wont be too much longer now before she connects my line.

Oh, good... I worry about how little support you have, so I'm glad you have this counsellor.

I spent a lot of time in my head today and with journalling, so didn't accomplish what I wanted to today. The house needs a lot of sorting (due to my hoarding disorder and germophobia - everything needs to be disinfected), so I'll need to work harder on it tomorrow.

I really hope your pain eases and you can get a better night's sleep tonight. @outlander

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Thanks @NatureLover i am very lethargic latley and had to pull over cause i had a dizzy spell. once i had a tea i was ok though.

Hopefully the time journalling was ok though, i know its not good being in our heads but sometimes can be productive when trying to sort things out. i hope you get the housework done that you need to do. i have some i need to do as well but i barely have any time atm. think i might make sunday my easy day except the horses im already commited to but thats only 3 hours of the day.

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No wonder you are dizzy and lethargic, you can't get enough food down 😞

Yes, the journalling helps to get things out of my head and to order my thoughts so they're not circling frantically round in my head.

How many horses do you have, and do you ever get time to ride them, or is the 3 hours just caring for their needs? @outlander

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im glad that your finding it helpful @NatureLover i know you were struggling with trying to find things that were helpful in coping with anxiety and the overwhelm lately. have you found anything else to be helpful too?

i only have 3 but i have 8 regularly in my care and occassionally others. the 3 hours is just feeding and watering 6 of them (i dont have 2 of them tomorrow) on sunday i have 13 horses all up to do. i might there longer tomorrow cause one of the owners of the horses i have wants to ride but doesnt want to ride on their own so thatll take up and extra hour or 2 in the day on top of time ill already be there

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@NatureLover

I wasn't expecting to still be here today. I requested that my account be closed yesterday, as I am afraid that my anonymity has been compromised. However the moderators tell me that only a manager can close an account. So I guess I am still here until Monday when they return. Although this is upsetting and very worrying for me, there is one good thing about it. It enables me to keep my promise to you to post here on your thread. I am generally very reliable and keep my word, so I'm glad to have this chance.

So ... as promised, here is how OCD manifests itself for me. Perhaps my experience may benefit others with various forms of OCD. I'm sorry it was done in a bit of a hurry, I hope it all makes sense and not just a heap of drivell. As explained to you before, I do not have germophobia or hoarding, but I do know that most of the feelings and stresses involved in any form of OCD is much the same for all sufferers.

My Obsessions:

Symmetry, Order, Patterns and Numbers.

Certain numbers, colours, patterns are 'bad'.

A need to know and remember things such as dates events etc.

A compelling need for certainty and control of things that matter.

My Compulsions:

Repeated counting, ordering and aligning of items or things.

Constant checking of locks, appliances, taps, etc.

For me, things have to be lined up in a particular way, and everything has to be in its place. I constantly feel the need to count things ... bricks in a wall, steps in a staircase, etc.

I watch the digital clock by my bedside all night long. Every time I look at the clock it has to be a 'good' number. If it isn't, then something bad is going to happen to a loved one. I bargain with people's lives in my head. If the number is 'bad', I need to try and manipulate it somehow in order to make it 'good'. Halve it, double it ... anything to make it okay and for the bargain not to have to come about.

Everything on all tables, benches, desks, has to be perfectly aligned. Bunches of papers need to be lined up perfectly. If I receive a bunch of papers and they are stapled haphazardly and not properly aligned .... I have to take them apart and make it right.

When I wash up ... all the dishes, cutlery, glasses etc have to be in the proper place. If anyone else does it, I have to put it right. Hanging out washing on the line ... all clothes have to be properly lined up, like colours and types together. Pegs have to be colour matched to the proper coloured clothes.

I often look at brick walls in the house ... count them, make patterns out of them ... constantly reshuffling things to make the right patterns and numbers. If I'm going out of the house ... I check 3 times that the door is locked. I check 3 times also that I have my door key in my handbag. When going away for a few days ... I check lights, taps, doors, etc numerous times.

These are just a few examples of how it affects me. There are many others, but I think you get a good idea from what I've already written. When my OCD is out of control, It can all become very mentally and physically exhausting. And highly distressing when things don't work out as they need to.

My psych has asked me to 'challenge' myself occasionally to allow things to just 'be'. Assures me that nothing bad will happen. But my mind won't permit that. We have done some CBT in an effort to reduce the severity of the OCD. And I think it did help a little, although the extent of my OCD varies depending on my levels of anxiety at any one time.

Research shows that a trauma background is a risk factor to developing OCD. Although I suspect I probably showed some minor tendencies towards it prior to that. However my trauma, and the need to try to cope with the aftermath, proved to be the trigger for it becoming an obvious problem for me. My OCD became worrying for me about 6 months or so after my trauma occurred. My psych believes it's become a coping mechanism for me. An effort to take control of things and divert the mind from the more difficult stuff

Something else I do is compulsive or chronic Lip biting (also known as Body Focused Repetitive Behaviour). BFRB is, as I understand it, another form of OCD. Much the same as OCD, BFRBs occur as a coping mechanism in situations where a person is feeling anxious or uncomfortable. The repetitive behaviours can provide temporary relief from painful emotions, and is a physical response to an emotional state such as stress, fear or anxiety. Chronic lip biting is just one example of BFRB's, and is the only one that applies to me. Although the term applies to any repetitive self-directed behaviour that damages skin, hair or nails. I often bite my lips and tear the skin off, thus causing wounds.

@NatureLover ... I have really enjoyed getting to know you a little better these past few weeks. And I appreciate all the support and guidance you have provided to me. I really hope you settle into your Guide role in a way which you feel comfortable. Because I think you're the type of person we all need in that role.

Wishing you the best that life has to offer you ... because there are none more deserving than you.

Sherry 🙏🌺

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Sorry for the delay in replying, @outlander , I ended up getting a bit overwhelmed last night. But it's the first time I've been overwhelmed in a few days, so that's good progress, I reckon.

Regarding the overwhelm, I am finding that coming onto the forums in very short bursts during the day is actually working for me. Just popping on briefly and replying to one or two posts. I will trial that a bit more and then see how much more I need to limit my time here after that. I've also started a little 'worry box' that you suggested...it's sitting on my desk. So thank you.

WOW to all those horses in your care! That's nice you'll be riding today, but on the other hand you didn't sound excited about it - maybe you're in too much pain physically to enjoy it? Or maybe it's the time commitment - 13 horses does sound like a lot and would take a long time to look after. Do you get paid anything to look after the other people's horses? I really hope so...

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@Former-Member ! Your post has returned! I wrote you a long reply, then lost it when your post disappeared. I will try to recreate it now...

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I really take it kindly @Former-Member that you posted on my thread after having left as best you could. Especially as your identity has been compromised. 😞 I am really sorry to hear that, and wish you didn't have to leave. 😞

I understand and relate to your conscientious trait of keeping to your word...so thank you. None of it was drivel, of course - it's all very useful and helpful.

I didn't know that some patterns and colours could be 'bad', only that numbers and dates could be 'bad'.


@Former-Member wrote:

A compelling need for certainty and control of things that matter.


Thank you for this insight - this is very helpful to me in working out the cause of my OCD. I knew it was a desire to control my environment against threats...that's all I could work out. I will take this on board.

The constant checking and counting and aligning would be so wearing. 😞 I do a little counting, like the steps in a staircase or the panels on a wooden floor, but the bricks in the wall is too much for me. I also will take apart papers that aren't stapled neatly and redo them perfectly...and hang my washing on the line in a certain order, the same each time. I understand how exhausting it all is; I need to know the entire history of every item I come across, in order to work out how "germy" it is - I have 4 levels of "dirtiness" in my head. I am sorry to hear about your distress if the numbers are 'bad'. 😞

I didn't know that a trauma background is a risk factor for OCD - I have complex childhood trauma. But it makes sense. That's interesting your psych said that it's an attempt to distract from the difficult stuff.

I'm also sorry to hear about the Compulsive Lip Biting, as it sounds painful. However I understand that it might be a good pain - something that takes away from the real and terrible emotional pain, and also something that's under your control. I also have several BFRBs (not that I knew they were called that) and did even as a child; I won't list them here as they could identify me. But I understand them. I actually didn't know they were part of OCD though.

Thank you for all your insight - it's very valuable and much appreciated.

Thank you too for your very kind words to me. I will miss you - you as you, and also as someone I can relate to with HSP traits, OCD and trauma background. Thank you for all your care, thoughful posts and wise advice.

There's no need to reply to this post, by the way.

Please take care, @Former-Member and please stay safe. ❤💔

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thats ok @NatureLover only respond when you feel ok.

im glad youve found some things that do help with the overwhelm. they sound good. well done for starting the worry box too.

I didnt ride today, another lady did though. its her horse but she lives a few hours away but her horses are in my care until at least august. she comes usually every weekend to see them and to have a ride. yeah thats why i look after them, its abit of extra money on the side especially with bills that like to pile up so quickly so every bit helps atm.
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