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Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

People can experience a range of emotions when receiving a diagnosis of a mental illness. This month we would like to have a community conversation facilitated by @Shimmer and @CherryBomb about your experiences of diagnosis.

We want to hear your thoughts on the benefits and challenges of receiving a diagnosis, how you can connect with or disclose to others, how it may affect your identity and any advice you might give to someone receiving a diagnosis.

Join us on Tuesday 19th July at 7pm AEST to be part of the conversation!

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5) Watch Mick's story about his diagnosis and his understanding of his signs and symptoms

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In response to: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Re: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Thanks Shimmer, great topic.

For me, getting the right diagnosis has massively changed my life for the better. I had a series of wrong diagnoses before that - BPD, schitzoaffective, even bipolar many years ago - and I knew that none of them fitted but when you're being told something by professionals, you question your own insight. Some of the, I guess, secondary diagnoses like PTSD have stayed the same but knowing my correct primary diagnosis explains why some of the PTSD treatment I had, made me more unwell. Since I was diagnosed with DID, I've finally started getting therapy that fits for me, and also been able to understand and do things on my own that have helped me function better.

In response to: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Re: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Hi @Shaz51

Your right, sometimes it does take years to come to a diagnosis, and misdiagnosis can certainly occur! It sounds like with your husband, he has received a lot of diagnoses over time, and that has gotten confusing about what is actually going on for him.

A couple of things come to my mind which may provide some insight into this process:

  • If there is a few different diagnoses that could be relevant to a person, clinicians consider them and make decisions on which one (or more) best explains the symptoms the person is experiences - the others become "differential diagnoses" (this means a diagnosis that could have been relevant, but doesn't explain the symptoms as well as another diagnosis). People can also have "comorbid diagnoses" - which means more than one at the same time.
  • Diagnoses can change over time - they are not necessary there forever! Symptoms may change or recover, which means that the person no longer meets criteria for the diagnosis. Clinicians tend to use diagnoses as a term to reflect their understanding of what is going on at the time, and this can change!

I wonder if these ideas are some you have heard before @Shaz51 and others, and whether they are helpful?

In response to: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Re: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

I have tried DBT but it is not easy to change. I can't see an end to this. All I can see is therapy, hospital, psychs and emotional stuff.

I sometimes wish i was never diagnosed.

In response to: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Re: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

I am too ashamed to tell others about having a personality disorder, I dont think it is helpful for me or others to share that information due to the possibility of stigma and my self stigma - I have a big issue with imagining what others will think if I share that information. I share about general anxiety and depression and social anxiety but only with like minded people or people with their own mental health issues. I disclosed too much when I was younger with the view of being an advocate for mental health issues but it did not often have a positive result. Now I am much more discerning about who I talk to and what I talk about.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Hi @Shimmer

What got my Husband is that the specialist and the mental health told him "I DON`T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE !!!

so my husband has cancelled all help

In response to: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Re: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

For me my wife's diagnosis has helped me gain some understanding on what has been going on, the possible outcomes I can expect, to try and find out how I can best handle things that come up, and get the most appropriate treatment.

For her, it has been so traumatic and confronting that each time she has immediately rejected it, blaming her psychiatrist, pharmacist etc with being responsible for her life, and running away.

Over time she calms down, things change in her mind, until it was me refusing to take my medication, not her. Me who needs to follow my psychiatrist's advice. And if I only do this, all will be ok again.

I am advised that until she gains insight, treatment will be difficult, but it is hard to see how that will happen. So the diagnosis is useful and helpful in some ways, but definitely harmful in others.

In response to: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Re: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Welcome to the Forums @Samiam, thanks for sharing your experiences tonight.

So it sounds like receiving diagnoses made you feel "wrong" and "different", which led you to isolate yourself. I don't think you are alone in this!

I'm really curious to hear about how you changed your approach to your mental health, to feel less ashamed and more hopeful about coming out from under these labels?

In response to: Re: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Re: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

From what people have contributed so far, it seems like getting a diagnosis is very personal and different experience for individuals. For some, it's helpful to explain things and get the appropriate treatment, but for others it can lead to more confusion. @BlueBay mentioned, it's challenging when there's a lack of information and consultation with health professionals.

One thing that stands out for me, is how different diagnoses are associated with different levels of stigma. As @Missellybee pointed out, people can find the diagnosis of 'psychosis' confusing. I like what @Missellybee said about how while people can hold misconceptions of mental illness, it's also an opportunity to point out resources and educate them.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Hi all, i'm trying to get kids ready for bed and so will come and go as i can.

Im finding the labels and diagnoses really hard and distracting from getting better/focussing on the areas that i need/want to get better in... because the whole label/s just make me feel as though im completely wrong/bad/broken.... but maybe its just because i've suddenly been diagnosed with different labels by two diff psychs for family court purposes all of which is just meant to be used against me, though my own treating team have tried to show in their reports that i am a capable mother, it really doesnt matter when words/diagnoses are just looked at on paper. also found out in the psych reports labels that my own psychiatrist hadnt even mentioned before which was hard.

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In response to: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Re: Topic Tuesday // What use is a diagnosis? // 19 July, 7pm AEST

Hi all,

I have a mostly positive attitude to my diagnosis. I've had withdrawal and depression problems ever since I can remember, was a very shy and unhappy child. Then after leaving home at 16, I went through a metamorphosis overnight from this into a kind of sex kitten for some years. Then back in the other direction into terrible depression including a suicidal time in my late 20s. Later again, a swing into sexual mania and not being able to sit still. For so many years, one extreme or the other, often with elements of both occurring at the same time.

For 18 years I was treated for anxiety and depression alone, during which time I explored many alternative options, including meditation, creative engagement, alternative health treatments like homeopathy, naturopathy, acupuncture, osteopathy and many more. These were also partly for crohns disease which I was also diagnosed with at 18. After many more extreme swings of mood that lasted for long periods of time, going from crying rivers to being the wildest party girl in town, I was finally diagnosed as bipolar in 2008.

For me this has been a lifesaver, as the medications I have since accessed have made my life far more managable and livable than ever before and they've also made my relationship life stable in a way it never was before. I don't go around advertising the fact that I have been diagnosed with bipolar to everyone but most of the people important to me in life know about it. Some question the diagnosis because I've always been good at keep a rational mask, even when I was having extremely strange thoughts and delusions in my own mind. But, overall, I'd have to say getting an apt diagnosis, one that makes sense of my experiences, has helped me.

I understand though that this experience is not always the case and not for everyone. One thing that may have a bearing on my situation is that I've never been hospitalised, so my experience with psychiatrists (mostly good) has been all of my own volition and choice. It's possible this has made my diagnosis a lot easier to accept and find useful. I don't see my condition as having a cure. But I do see it as livable in a way it really wasn't before getting the bipolar diagnosis. For this I am grateful.

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