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What do I do?

What do I do?

My daughter who is now 20 years who we will call H suffers from a Mental Illness, not clinically diagnosed as yet. She has an older sister who is 24.
We have only just been going to see a Phychiatrist in the last 4 months. After going to through the local council & neutophcologist for advice.
Here's our story:
When she was 4 she was diagnosed with a mild intellectual disability. Schooled at a specialist school till she was 16. Lost some close family friends on the way as they were reaching high school years as they thought H was "different" & wasn't "trendy" enough for them. She was basically embarrassing. She was always on the outer as she could not express herself properly & was a little slower.
When H was 15 we moved away from an area in which we lived for 20 years for a change. Things were looking good, we found a specialist school nearby to accommodate H but only to be told that she didn't need to be in a specialist school as Mainsteam would've been good with an assistance of an aide. So we transferred her to mainstream. She went down a Year level to give her more of a fair go in learning. The school & children were very kind, they were understanding & she made many friends but within 4 months things were worsening. She would come home saying she was being bullied & having arguments with most of the girls in the group. The teachers intervened & found a new group for H to associate with. As time went by H become more recluse, she would only have 2 friends. Her problem was that she still had her best friends from her old school but she felt as though she didn't want to get close to anyone from her new school so she wouldn't loose her friends from her old school. Eventually she lost her friendship with the girls from her old school & was left with one friend from the new school but most of the time she would be in a group of girls at school but they wouldn't talk to her. This broke my heart.
She still did well In school as she was determined to prove to everyone that she was smart & can do this. She was thriving through Year 9, 10 & then Year 11. Mind you this is a child that attended a special school all her life. So we were proud & so was she as she thought she would never get this far. She loved school.
Going back a bit now:
After 6 months of moving to the new area, her sister moved out back to the old area & this upset H. She then had no one, only me. I left work so that I can be there for her as a friend & a mother. She was visiting her sister on weekends. It's sad cause we have been here for nearly 5 years & the relationship with her sister has also deteriorated as you need to have patience to speak to H as she goes on about things (it's hard to explain). So H has completed Year 12 with a Cert ii in Hospitality. We are so very proud of her.
Now it's the 1st year since she's left school staying at home with no motivation in finding a job, so she is doing a 20 week beauty Course, which I am doing with her to act as her aide as well as studying myself.
I was hoping that her attitude would change & this would motivate her to do things or meet new people. No she still doesn't go out. She's met a friend on the internet & has been seeing him for 4 months. In this time if they're together & happy she's happy (but still at home & lazes around) but when they are not together, well she threatens to harm herself & myself They constantly fight but currently have broken up & this is why I am on this page. This & previous boyfriends she does the same thing. Calls them until they block her from calling & then she puts her phone on private & continues to contact them. She is very obsessed when it comes to boyfriends. We had just sought a Phychiatrist (last 4 months).after trying hypnosysis as we thought it was depression or we were just in denial. In previous scenarios I was able to control the situation but a few weeks ago H was getting violent & I decided to call the police. This was only done as a scare tactic for her, which has worked slightly. H is aware that if the police are called again, she will have no choice but to be taken away to a safe place. So when she gets really upset I just remind her of this & she backs off.
So at the moment she is up till all hours of the night till morning (as now 2.50am) hence why I am up. This is on most nights regardless if in a happy or sad mood. I need to know if there is anyone or any facilities out there like a renabilitation Centre who can help H with her issues.
These issues usually occur at night but the Phychiatrist is not available after hours & I don't want to call the police & I have contacted an after hours emergency assistance help line & they told my husband & I to just let her get her way. That was the most ridiculous advice I have ever heard. That is n a situation like this of if we feel she's getting into that situation we should let her win.
She is a very unstable young lady & I try so hard to be there for her but I am getting drained as this has been happening for nearly 5 years but worsening over the last 8-12 months.
It frustrates me that I still am family friends with the parents of the girls who dumped Hannah as they're lovely but their children are nasty & I am a god mother to one of them. Otherwise I would've cut ties with them a long time ago, or should I (advice needed) it doesn't bother H that we still keep in touch with the parents but H just doesn't have anything to do with their children & as they're older now & drive we don't see them when we go visiting as much.
Am I doing the right thing? Or is there somewhere I can go or is there more I can do?
Needing urgent advice please

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Thank you Nik,
I have read this fact sheet & I think my daughter may have BPD. I will need to speak to her counsellor on our next visit.

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Hi Apple,
Not sure in we carers organisations in our state. I will ask the counsellor on my next visit.
Thank you

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Someone mentioned earlier that I can contact Sane direct if there is an urgency. Is this free of charge?

My daughter has had a few episodes in the last few days & in which I have had to calm the situation down myself. I tried to contact her counsellor & she was not available. I've left a message & still no reply. Do I contact Sane if this occurs again? Or should I try to get a private counsellor who is available 24/7.
I'm concerned as we had a very close call earlier today when she called her Ex boyfriends phone & he got a girl to answer saying it was his girlfriend.(he's at school) Well she lost it. She constantly rings him & he doesn't answer so she puts her phone on private so he answers. She was very angry & out of my control she got in her car to go down to his house. I tried to stop her but she's head strong. I contacted her 3 times to convince her to come home & then she wouldn't answer my calls. In the end I text her to tell her that both her ex & I were going to call the police if she Continues to go there. Luckily 10 mins into her drive there was a road block & traffic was diverted & that's when she called me to explain this & I then convinced her to come home. We were both due to drive to Melb to visit people. When she got home & after a long talk we did end up going to Melb as her attitude changed. Yesterday she had written a 4 page letter for her ex & wanted to send it to him. This had calmed the situation. I told her that we will post it if it made her feel better. She is determined to win him back. She's convinced he's cheated on her while they were going out in which he denied hence the break up. She has now gone through his previous Instagram posts on girls he's followed & likes. She is now contacting one of these girls & she's replied that yes he has spoken to her & she is getting upset. I'm trying to explain to her that this girl has said he's only contacted her through Instagram & that's not cheating. She's waiting for a reply from this girl to see if they have caught up or if he was flirting with her. She won't get the answer till morning so she's worked up & thinking the worst. Again I'm trying to tell her to wait till the morning & stop thinking bad thoughts. She's finally gone to bed as I'm sleeping with her. She gets to obsessed. It's a worry. Sorry for this venting but I just need to know why she's reacting this way & why she so obsessed.

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Hi @Mumsworry1

It sounds like you have had a terrible night ...... you poor thing, you must be completely wrung out this morning ...... I hope you are taking the opportunity to rest up in the after-math of events like this to regain your own balance. You have done the first important thing in dealing with your daughter the way you did last night. In the absence of other help, it sounds like you did an amazing job ❣ but you are right ...... your own health will not stand up to this sort of event constantly occurring.

So you have done the next most important thing - reached out for more support.

There is a link at the bottom left hand corner of the last post. It is labelled "Report Inappropriate Content" ..... do you see it ? You can press o that link if you have concerns about something that has been posted, or the person who has posted, but you can also use that link to help yourself. It flags the moderators to your need for urgent attention.

This forum is not designed to deal with crisis circumstances per se, but the moderators are able to provide points of contact for crisis support, and ongoing regular support services, both for carers such as yourself, and for those struggling with mental illness in its wide variety of forms.

There is a Helpline no. in the top right jphabpnd corner of your screen - 1800 18 7263 - and another link called "Chat Off-line" next to it. You can use either of these during the day for hours that will be explained by following the links. It sounds like a good idea to follow through on one of those this morning to have a de-brief about last night and try to recover your own eqilibrium .......

It will also be very helpful, I think, to develop an action plan, especially as there is a pattern of crisis behaviour here, so you don't feel so helpless in the moment of trying to protect all the young people involved from harm and repercussions ......

I hope this helps ......

Sending best wishes your way for calm and peace, and a greater sense of support.

🌷

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Hi @Mumsworry1 & @Faith-and-Hope

It sounds like you had a horrendous night Mumsworry1, and you did an amazing job at projecting your daughter. It is exhausting though.

Thanks Faith-and-Hope for pointing out the Helpline number and online chat. SANE's helpline and chat is to get referrals and support. I hope you utilise it today.

The Forums, as you probably have seen, is a place for peer support - so it's great to get insights from others who may have been or are going through, similar situations. The moderators role is to ensure people are safe and encourage discussion between peers.

Sadly, there are many parents in this community concerned about their children, who I'm sure can relate to your experience. One that comes to mind is @parent1, who posted here about her daughter.

Parent1, do you have any advice for Mumsworry1? I hope you and your daughter have been travelling well since your last update.

Mumsworry1, it might be worth having a read of parent1's thread, as there's a few different strategies and tips in there that parent1 and others share.

I hope you have the space to take care of yourself today - even if it's a spare 10 mins for a cup of tea, a walk or a chat to a loved one.

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Update: H & her boyfriend are still broken up since last Week. Her friends have gotten involved in telling lies that H was seeing other guys. These nasty girls were jealous with what H had with her boyfriend. He was such a supportive & respectful young man. H can't believe that all this has come to end due to her now ex friends. H has got nobody now. The 2 friends she had & boyfriend are now gone.
She is so miserable ATM & just says she doesn't want to be here. I am keeping a close eye on her & giving her positive thoughts.
She was constantly trying to contact him which he was getting sick of her calling & threatening to harm herself.
I finally convinced her last night that she is to leave him alone until he finished his study & until she gets the help she needs. This will take months but she agreed. Only one day in & she's already wanting to contact him as she can't handle not talking to him. She hasn't contacted him yet but I know she's expecting him to react to a letter in which she sent him on Thursday apologizing & begging for him to come back. I know that he won't come back if she constantly annoys him & doesn't sort out her life.
She is so stubborn & just doesn't understand that if she doesn't take my advice, she will loose him forever.
We live on the Mornington Peninsula, does anyone know of any on call counsellors or a retreat she can go into to sort out her problems? Cause when she has a breakdown, it's really bad.
I don't want to call the police but if it gets really bad I will have no choice. I want to avoid this path.
I just want her to speak to someone quickly to help her sort this out.
So frustrated that I cannot contact her current counsellor to give her updates.
Sorry I needed to vent.
Mumsworry1

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Re: What do I do?

Vent away @Mumsworry1 ❣

I'm sorry, I don't have answers for you, but others here maybe do ......

I'm listening though .....

Hugs ❣

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Hi @Mumsworry1

I'm sorry to hear about the troubling weekend. What nasty girls to do that. I feel for you and your daughter.

If you are worried about her immediate safety and feel she may harm herself, 000 is the best way to get help urgently. The 24/7 Mental Health Advice Line (1300 280 737) might be a good place to start looking at local assistance.

Here is a list of other contacts that might be useful around your area.

You seem to be able to talk reason to her and help her see the consequences of her actions - even if you are only delaying them for a short time. You may have already tried this, but perhaps writing a list of the pros and cons of contacting him (most of which I'm sure you've spoken with her about), but keeping the list somewhere visible, which she needs to consult before contacting him.

I have found lists or things written down are helpful to go back to in moments of heightened emotion.

Hope you're travelling well.

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Thank you Nik Nik. That's a great idea. I might just do this list thing with her.
I have gone through some of your suggestions hence how we got onto this counsellor through the Mornington Community Services.
We went to Headspace & it was a group of girls trying to fix the system & put something in place rather than a group of people seeking help. Not what I expected.

I really want to see her happy but she continues to jump straight into something without going over the consequenes.
She is still waiting on his response to her letter. I really hope he reads it & makes contact but I doubt it very much as this is very much over.
I just need to see how long I can delay this for as each day will be the same question, "do u think he's read my letter?"
I will need to make contact with H's counsellor tomorrow as I need to make an urgent app before she blows up.
Thanks again
Mumsworry1

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Hi,

I also have a child (son) who is 17 and has struggled with mental health issues for around 4 years now. He has been diagnosed as having major depressive disorder and social anxiety disorder. Throughout my struggles with him, and the school and health system, the one thing that I have learned is that above and beyond the systems that are out there, is that I am the number 1 primary support person in his life.

I have watched my son fall out of mainstream schooling to now be in a residential care facility and SPS school. I have had to sit by and watch friend after friend disappear and leave him isolated in his own misery. I have also had to witness family deliberately and hurtfully turn their back on my son and offer no support of either him or me. It's not been easy. In fact it has been very, very hard, painful, and at times overwhelming. When this happens you begin to feel like you are swimming against the stream. Everything is hard and difficult. Even getting appropriate treatment or attention is hard.

I have also been in the predicament of having to call Police and Ambulance in order to maintain my son's safety and have been in "insane" situations where I felt there was no support.

What you need to do is keep facing forward and swim against the tide. Perservere and forge forward. If you can connect with one professional, be it a counsellor or psychologist, this would be good. Continuity of history becomes important, as does connection with one individual who understands the full story. For me I was able to establish this via a psychologist in private practice. My son has been engaged with her for 3.5 years and she has been very instrumental in achieving further support. Additionally he has also seen the same psychiatrist for 3 years - again providing us/him with continuity of care and the ability to open further avenues of treatment and care. If you are not in the position to afford private consults then I would recommend becoming acquainted with your local mental health care team or community services with a view to establishing a long-term rapport with them If you become familiar with the local mental health care team they do offer after hours support for emergency psych situations, so that may be another thing to consider as opposed to other emergency interventions. A psychologist or psychiatrist should be able to refer your daugher to the mental health care team for ongoing management and care.

In the meantime you have to ensure that you look after yourself and take balancing time out. As a carer and mother you can only do so much. I have learnt that my effectiveness as both carer and mother is very dependent on how well I am. The better I am, the better I can be for my child. Ensure that somewhere along the road you take time to focus on some good stuff for yourself because if you consistently give and expend outward energy it will take it's toll on you and ultimately affect your ability to function in a healthy and productive way.

You sound as if you are doing a wonderful job and I commend you on your strength and resilience.

All the best

Janna ❤️

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