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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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I tried sleeping but yet another strange dream.. my sisters and i were getting chased by a snake. 😕

Im glad your sleep is improving now @Mazarita it always good when theres some sort of improvement❤. Do you think your new meds are helping?

How are you @CheerBear ive been reading along with the nest thread and seen youve done some tricky things to get your break sorted. Well done ❤

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One of mine has snake dreams a lot @outlander. It's a bit yuck. Hugs.

Thank you ❤ I am OK enough thanks. I think I was on an adrenaline for rush most of yesterday. Everything goes fast and racing and jumbled when that happens and then it gets to a point where it kind of runs out and I crash, which I did last night. I can feel it bubbling again this morning already but that's OK - this will be over soon enough.

Are you going to have a chance to have some rest today?

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@CheerBear, I'm pretty out of control with coffee, and with other things, at the moment. I have no doubt it would be better for me if I drank herbal tea. I don't seem to have much self control or will just now.

I like thinking of you snuggled warm and cosy for longer than usual.

@outlander, sounds like a symbolic dream. I have had dreams of snakes, spiders, lions, tigers, panthers, cats, even yetis. Other creatures too no doubt. Also had many chasing dreams, where I am being chased. Don't get them much anymore. Dreams in their very nature seem pretty strange.

Thanks for the good wishes for further sleep improvement here. I think it may be that the new med is starting to work just a little bit. Though I am in a bit of trouble with myself at the moment.

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I could definitely work on my caffeine intake also @Mazarita. I stick to my no-coffee from 3pm rule but between when I wake and then, I struggle with it. Some herbal teas are nice, some taste like grass to me 😛

This med change has been really rough on you 😞

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It wasnr scary thankfully just very weird @CheerBear

Adrenaline has a funny way of doing things doesnt it. It sounds like a productive day though. Hugs for those yukky bubblng feelings. It will be over soon. Keep hanging on, youve got this ❤

Is LF ok after last nights help incident?

@Mazarita i hadnt thought of it as symbolic. May take a read and see what a snake chasing dream means.
Whats happening thats causing you to be abit in trouble with yourself?

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True, @CheerBear, rough. I feel like I'm pretty much straight out depressed at the moment. You'd probably agree if you could see the state I'm in. It's embarrassing, the neglect.

There are some nice herbal teas in the house, one in particular. It is a twinings, cranberry and pomegranite. Yum. Rivals my other favourite, liquorice tea.

But I get into these states where it's almost like I'm punishing my body, or just couldn't give a f*&^. Not good. The thing with bipolar though is that there's usually a different state or mood waiting around the corner. That's a bad thing if too extreme, but a good thing in that it's possible to get a relief from depression.

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Thanks @outlander. I think it will be better when the catt assessment is over with. Middle little was fine thankfully!

@Mazarita big big hugs. I can sense the state you've been in and can only imagine how much that sucks for you. I really feel for you with those extremes that can last 😞 I do like the idea of another state around the corner, but even that speaks of instability and uncertainty in a way.

I've been looking more at bipolar lately, just reading symptoms and how to manage, and meds as I relate to some of it, in a rapidly changing way. The mood stabilizer is on the cards again for me and this current "thing" I'm going through would probably look like a bit like mixed state, or agitated depression, which is not great. None of it's great - deep depression, extreme arousal, both at once... I find myself seriously appreciating the way you live with your acceptance, awareness, patience with yourself etc.

Red green vanilla tea is my favourite I think 🙂

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@outlander, above message to CB about depression and neglect of myself at the moment. That's what makes me feel like I'm in some trouble. Also loss of some control over my own actions, so that I'm behaving in addictive and/or compulsive ways (like with the coffee). I am an addictive personality in general, just that it's a bit more out of control than usual for now.

@CheerBear, hugs back. You are right about instability and uncertainty here too. Mixed state makes some sense, as you describe it of yourself. Could be worth trying a mood stabiliser just to see if it helps. Thanks for your appreciation, it means a lot. At the same time, I think it's easier for me because I don't have the little ones, and many other aspects of your life that cause too much stress. Hugs again.

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@CheerBear, @outlander, time for more sleep here. Sorry I've been a bit heavy at this start of day, and thanks for listening. I really hope your day goes well.

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I have this big fear of trying a new med while my DSP application is in process @Mazarita. Sounds so bad and I feel lots of stuff about it, even fear of writing it here, so I'm leaving it at that for now (sort of feels good to touch on even very briefly). CATTs will no doubt look at meds tomorrow so we'll see.

I don't think it's any easier or harder with or without littles @Mazarita, just different maybe. Sometimes I think I wouldn't leave the house, eat, have any kind of routine, do anything good for myself, speak to anyone etc if I didn't have to, and they give me my have to when it's gone for myself maybe. It would take a lot of willpower to do it for me, and when willpower gets shaky like you are experiencing - big tough ❤
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