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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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@Mazarita it seems so unfair that even with modern meds we have to go backwards before we can go forwards. That's when I ask myself 'does the benefit outweigh the side effect?'. I am glad you are being monitored closely while going through this process. I'm on one that had to be introduced very slowly too coz of the risk of dangerous side effects. But once I was up to dose successfully it really works well for me (in combo with two others).

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Yes, there are potential dangerous side effects with this one too, @eth, especially when transferring from the one I was on to the one I'm on now. In particular, there's the risk of a possibly fatal skin condition! This one is also known to be especially good for bipolar depression, not that I've experienced anything very helpful with that so far. But, like I said, clinical dose has not yet been reached, and I think it takes a while too for dose changes to kick in. I've read lots of stuff saying this really is a great med, but that it requires a lot of patience at the start. So still hopeful, though the amount of time I've been in this slumpy state is starting to make me nervous.

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I'm pretty sure it's the same one @Mazarita. My depressions haven't been as low as they were before and I really hope it works out that way for you eventually. L. I think you're doing really well to be patient with it and gentle on yourself when you need to be.

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It would make sense if you were taking the same one, @eth. I know you avoid anti-depressants due to risk of elevation. So it would make sense to prescribe this one for you, I imagine. Snap, same med, lol.

Yes, I am being gentle. Sounds like you are doing the same for yourself in this trying time.

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Doing my best @Mazarita. I was on the phone when my bro came to say goodbye as he's going to see Mum for a couple of days and I'd actually succeeded in putting it out of my mind that when he wished me well for the hearing I wasn't even thinking of it as so soon. Reality bites!

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@eth, that's great though that you can put it out of your mind for some periods of time at least. Seems like a good plan to review in the morning and give yourself time out in the afternoons/evenings perhaps. But you know how best to manage it.

I'm going to watch Star Trek now. Might catch you later tonight. Thanks for doing the shout out this afternoon. ox

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Hi @eth and anyone around here, hope your evening is going okay or better.

After watching star trek, c and i went for a quick visit to our friend's place. This has picked me up quite a bit after a bad day.

On mobile now while a video is processing, taking up all the juice of my desktop. Slow process on this mobilr but I think I'm getting a bit quicker at it.

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Yeh @Mazarita long night ahead again
Whats happening for you thats keeping you awak

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@outlander, didn't really wake up properly until 3.30pm this afternoon. Was asleep on and off since 7.30pm last night. I've had too much sleep. Hard to go to bed again just now.

What's keeping you awake tonight?

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Ah ok i see @Mazarita

I feel out of sorts. Too much on my.mind but alot of its just random and unnecessary worries about everything 😞 feeling abit lonley in the mix too
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