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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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FB, the course I'm doing called Way of Story, and friends and family @Mazarita. I'm thinking of doing a book titled something like 'Poles of the Spirit' about my spiritual adventures when manic/psychotic and starting each chapter with one of my poems. I'll be both hero and antagonist!

I went looking for the Belfast Poets Collective I used to be in and did slams and publishing with in the mid-naughties but they don't seem to be active atm.

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I like the sound of a book where you are both the protagonist and the antagonist, @eth. Seems very relevant to bipolar. I'd love to read about some of your spiritual adventures when manic. My craziest spiritual feelings were when I became sex obsessed and fancied I was a love goddess. My rampant adventures with sex over five years were never about trashing myself (at least in my own mind), but always about spreading love via the free sharing of the body. Unfortunately this generous feeling was not always reciprocated, as you might imagine!

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Been there, done that, bought a tee-shirt @Mazarita!!

I could tell some stories here that would blow your mind. You probably could too.

But some of it is actually really spiritual breakthroughs, not breakdowns. e.g. I still carry a Native American peace pipe due to one hypomanic period. It's very rare to ask for one and receive it from the lineage of it's origin. And I wear a tatoo I won't describe as identifying that's based on an old prophecy that's coming true currently. ........... !

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@eth, now I'm peeved that I didn't think to get myself the t-shirt!

Feel free to blow my mind! I know what you mean about some of these experiences seeming genuine rather than just 'crazy'. And of course they are genuine experiences. Perhaps it takes a little 'crazy' to truly get closer to some of these spiritual realities. I do know about peace pipes and how it's a great privilege to be a pipe holder. C had a lot of experience with north american indian spirituality in his past and is still heavily influenced by his experiences with it.

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@Mazarita I was given a Native American name by an Aboriginal man who had travelled to many reservations (as they were called back then) with his music and an Aboriginal elder and was told by NA elders to give the name and an old necklace to the woman he would meet and know she was the one he was meant to give them too. And this was when I was stable. It coloured my hands-on healing training and philosophy ever since.

The nature of psychosis is that it really feels real at the time, we lose insight into the fact we're perceiving what's not there - but then if you get into metaphysics etc there's a lot that's real that doesn't appear to the human eye.

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Totally agree about there being a lot that's real that doesn't meet the eye, @eth. But somehow it seems that these spiritual realities experienced when high can't be properly absorbed into an ordinary, functional life. And then of course there are the crashes, which can go on for a long time, especially if the manic period went on for a long time, as did mine. I would like to maintain a better balance now because my main feeling these days about my purpose in life is to live a fully human life, with its limitations and mysteries.

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Ditto @Mazarita, absolutely. I am working on integration atm but I definitely don't want to think I'm a goddess or such. There's a limit to how much pagan/aquarian/wiccan/hippy stuff our society can handle and it's very important to remember how to seem, and to maintain insight in a grounded way.

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@eth, it's a funny thing with the love goddess thing though: it was like a secret knowledge I had about myself. I didn't go around telling people I was a love goddess, just had that thought in myself. I did have some extraordinary experiences during those years that I wouldn't take back, even though I am living with fallout from it too. I agree too that being able to integrate with the society around us to some extent is important for our own ordinary wellbeing. Groundedness, yes, very desirable. Depression is grounding in a strange way. I would like to be able to lift the dominance of depressed feelings and behaviours in my life, without going manic again.

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I'd like that too @Mazarita. It seems like I can't come out of the loooong depressions without going hypomanic. I'd love nothing more than just to come back to life in a balanced way.

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I think I get mild mixed and rapid cycling states too, @eth, but depression has always felt like the default position for me. It seems like you and I have that in common. Let's hope the positive things in both of our lives at present help to improve this.

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