FORUMS

Connect with people who understand what you are going through, seek advice and surround yourself with support. We're free, anonymous, and professionally moderated 24/7.

  • 47,612Members
  • 1,358,869Posts
  • 1,400,000Visitors
Our stories

A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

27230 replies

4,791 - 4,800 of 27,230

In response to: A long rave

Re: A long rave

Sounds like a good plan, and your psychiatrist sounds good too, @eth, great to hear! I too believe my major mania was, at least in part, triggered by going on anti-depressants for the first time. It took a while but I just kept winding up and up and up. Then, because I was diagnosed with depression, the anti-depressants I took over all those years fuelled five years of hyper and full manias. But that was anti-depressants alone. I have had very little trouble with taking anti-depressants when on mood stabilisers. Each individual is different though, and I know you are pretty quick to elevate from past instances. You know you the best.

In response to: Re: A long rave

Re: A long rave

Hi @outlander hope today is one of the better ones for you x

@Mazarita for me it was over 20 years just on ad's, several manias and a few hospitalizations for psychosis and still not diagnosed accurately til 2009. I've probably had bipolar since at least my early 20's if not my teens - hindsight. GP and psychiatrist are also sending me for a battery of blood tests and an ECG. Hoping they're all clear but it is possible that metabolic syndrome (thanks for the pointer @Faith-and-Hope) or pre-diabetes are contributing to my weight gain. But I also need to curb the snacking when awake during the night. It's partly your success with ad's that helps me even consider it as an option @Mazarita.

In response to: Re: A long rave

Re: A long rave

Good Morning Mazy @Mazarita, Claire @outlander, Faith @Faith-and-Hope, Shaz @Shaz51, Cheerbear @CheerBear, Eth @eth, Soul @soul, GP @Bunniekins, Mohill @Former-Member, Teej @Teej and Everyone 🙂

Yay Rubber Duckie!!!! Mazy ❤️
Goodbye to the Euro-contest winner & hello to a real Super Star - you don't shine for the fame {you'd rather shun it}, [you'd probably shine for the money - but . . . oh well ;)]; you shine with pure creativity, a light that comes from deep within your soul . . . a light you can't control, when it's on your on - when it's off .. . it's a little like your off.
May your light shine brightly Mazy ❤️

Oh Eth, fancy those records being where they were supposed to be . . . how dare they!! ❤️ The $$$ will have been well spent if they alieviate your problems, perhaps even if they don't - what price should we put on trying? It's sad to know that you could be depressed even if in different circumstances, that being the case, I think your situation would be greatly exasperating the neuro-biological reactions - it's almost cruel to have to fight & strive so hard, when already fighting & struggling just to 'be'.

Niqua

In response to: Re: A long rave

Re: A long rave

I'm just too depressed without them, @eth. But, as I said, there is a mood stabiliser that is particularly known to be helpful for bipolar depression. If that's the one I change to, I may no longer need an AD. But it depends on toleration of the new mood stabiliser, etc. Our stories are so similar with manias related to ADs and the length of time to proper diagnosis. I basically believe I've had bipolar since birth. I believe what the Black Dog Institute says about it, that is 80% due to genetic factors. I've been depressed since childhood certainly. Hope your medical tests come back clear.

In response to: A long rave

Re: A long rave

Hi @eth...., 👋

Are you waking hungry and snacking during the night, or just snacking as a self-soothing thing when you wake up during the night ?

If you’re hungry, it’s my experience that if you eat a little more during the day, you willl meet your body’s intake quota during the wakeful hours and are less likely to want to eat during the night if you wake up. Increasing your intake can be high fibre foods that don’t contribute much energy wise but keep you feeling fuller ..... or a little high-protein food cos that’s like slow-burning logs in the fire.

If you’re not hungry, try to have a herbal tea instead, cos the warmth will provide the self-soothing function, along with the activity of making and drinking the tea.

💕

In response to: Re: A long rave

Re: A long rave

Hi to you too @Former-Member I always love the beautiful way you compliment others - you have a real way with words.

Thanks for your compassion towards me too. I do feel that I'm having to put mental health management above physical with the medication choices.

Thanks and warm wishes to you too @Faith-and-Hope. Hope you're still enjoying your latest jaunt between homes. And that all your big dragons are doing well at the moment.

In response to: Re: A long rave

Re: A long rave

Niqua You shower me with such kind words and thoughts, thank you!

You are right about the part when I am on I'm on. But when off, definitely off. That's a portrait of bipolar for you.

Yes, rubber duckie is looming. I'll probably have to actually do it in about 20 mins.

By the way, money has always meant very little to me, to my own detriment really.

How's the rubber duckie going for you, dear heart? And how is your gut feeling today?

@Former-Member

In response to: A long rave

Re: A long rave

Yes, it was great to catch up with the bigger dragons @eth, and all is well with them.

Returned to not-rosey over here tho ..... D3 called me all weekend. These 2 are still wobbly, D3 with health woes that were being exacerbated through invalidation, and S2 is having anxiety moments, also exacerbated by invalidation .......

The invalidater is gripped by panic over missed classes ..... fearing and reacting to the previous track records of non-attendance, without being able to understand that he can turn a single non-attendance into a spiral through invalidation and control / power issues .....

Sigh .....

He’s out ..... the kids are going through exploring the use of the camera, which both will need for their studies, and are relaxed, focussed and happy in this moment .....

And I am in the coffee shop ☕️❣️

In response to: Re: A long rave

Re: A long rave

@Faith-and-Hope you have a real skill in finding small positives within the big challenges. And that's not a small thing!

In response to: Re: A long rave

Re: A long rave

@Former-Member, @eth, @Faith-and-Hope and all, I'm taking off into the shower now. Thank you for such wonderful chat this morning.

4,791 - 4,800 of 27,230