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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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@eth yeah totally aurthority figures i really struggle with incredibly!!!+

U have to b selfish & just focus on u now tho.

This isnt about u.

Yeah its very close to u but its not u now

Its time for u to view it at a distance.

U will comprehend it more than most because of ur experience tho.

U cant help this reaction. Its normal to feel everything ur feeling cause of your own experiences. Sad but true.

Gosh i just came out of an aqua class & there were 4 Police cars. Heaps of Police & someone bashing away in paddy wagon. Im sure i felt more than others cause of my past. I just was aware of that slowed down & drove away. It wasnt my problem now.

Ur safe eth u havent done anything. Its just ur past now. U have people in ur present now

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@eth Hey eth how horrifying. As I was reading your words I could picture the encounter in my head :o. I am glad you are alright and yes I would have been terrified too. He is a time bomb and should be kicked out imho. Just stay safe. Love peax

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@Adge @Former-Member @Bunniekins thankyou all for your responses overnight. Yes @Adge I am really triggered by drunk people too, puts me into a flight state in less than an instant. And @Former-Member I know I wouldn't be able to control my reactions if I was present when the police came either.

@Bunniekins I agree that he should be given his marching orders this time too, but there are other factors involved in bro and sil continuing to allow him to be there. I was told yesterday that he also has complex PTSD and suffers greatly, including being suicidal at times - isn't it the case with many addictions?

I just thank goodness that bro and sil have also really strongly established boundaries that sil's bro has to stick within at a physical level at least. Because of the time he went off at me he is no longer allowed to cross the boundary between the 2 properties. Not even to use the shared laundry that's on our side. And as he lost his licence a year ago this means he has to take his washing on his bicycle to the laundromat. That's just one example. I'm pretty sure that if he breached one of those rules, or ever came near me when drinking, he would be out on his ear. I don't know how sil's mum copes with living with him. She is so staunch for a 75+ year old. It was her called the police to take him yesterday. I've been told she feels guilt over his alcoholism because of events in his childhood and also her lifestyle back then.

But I see that in a way, by continuing to give him a safe place to come back to, there is an element of enabling at play. Yes I'm being harsh, but I feel you can only abuse the help so many times. Bro and sil's loyalty to family at almost any cost is admirable in many ways, but I think they are getting close to drawing the line with him.

You're all right. In this situation all I can do is focus on my own needs - I just can't feel sorry for him when he triggers so much in me. But at the same time I can't judge him because I didn't get on top of my addiction to herb until I was his age. There is a lot I could say about the suicidal aspect, but I don't want to upset anyone here. I'll just say that I've been there and somehow survived 10 days in a coma, and bro was at my side daily and also looked after my child, and then when I got out of hospital I was manic and in psychosis and mucked up in all sorts of extreme ways - that all took its toll on my family hugely and for many years ... so all this is also churning away in me just now and the reason it's not for me to say how long they should keep supporting him. They still support me - built the cabin for me and I've lived with them now the better part of 3 years.

Sorry I'm rambling. Just so stirred up and unsettled today.

Thanks for listening.

@Zoe7 @Faith-and-Hope @Appleblossom @Shaz51 @Teej @CheerBear @outlander @Meowmy @Exoplanet

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Wow @eth I've been reading your posts but I am going through my own struggle so I haven't responded until now.

Glad you enjoyed your visitors and it's great to have you back in forumland. I'm very sorry you were frightened by SIL's bro it all sounds very traumatic and triggering. I just was blown away by your last post, you have so much insight into the situation. You even have a fair bit of empathy for your neighbour.

We done in protecting your boundaries.

I hope you can find some time to relax today and unwind.

Angels333

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Thanks so much for your reply @Angels333 . Writing what I've posted has very much helped me put the situation 'outside of myself' and at arm's length. So for now I'm just hanging around over on the Saturday Soiree thread if you want to pop in.

Hope your struggle starts to sort itself out soon for you. Some days it's not a day at a time, but rather an hour at a time or even 10 minutes at a time. Just keeping diverted from SH and other detrimental behaviours and at least some of the time doing self-care activities. That's how it works for me anyway. Take care.

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Oh @eth , sounds like you had some real drama last night - what with the Police
involved and all! I'm hoping this didn't happen while your kids were there! I get it,
it's hard when you know he has his own individual thought & emotional processes;
. . . but we all do, that doesn't make it alright for anyone to encroach another's private
space & be unpleasant. I don't know what happened, I haven't read through; but
coming from someone who doesn't remember events that formed their own personal
thought & emotional processes, the actual events that happen aren't as important as
the way they affect those involved in them. He has, in my opinion, clearly affected
your thought & emotional process in a negative way; as he did with sil's mum: I feel
that same as she does with the guilt with my daughters up-bringing, I know it would
take a lot for me to decide to call the police. Ohhh & where does a family 'draw the
line' for one of it's own members?!?! I think it depends on the family, yours is a
strong, loving one I was rejected by my parents in my early teens & although I
was accepted by them again later in life, I was never really 'approved' of again. Is
there anything about bro-in-law that isn't negative?. anything that you could see as
worth fighting for, from a closer family member - like sil's mum {I'm guessing he's
her son?} I can understand not wanting to take harsh actions against a family member,
but I can also understand wanting to protect the other family members It seems
like your bro-in-law is walking the entire family along a very fine tight rope between
the 2 Feeling for you Eth

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Thankyou so much for getting it and replying @Exoplanet . As always, you are spot on.

Listening to some music - Oka band - and trying to take my mind off it all.

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@eth

Its great u got this out of your head.

I dont think anyone here will judge you for whatever you think.

Just hope u got some sleep & can have the weekend to process what happened

Families can b very complicated thats for sure

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@eth hope ypur day turns out well. Take care.

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Thanks @Meowmy and @Former-Member . I've been told that this morning he is still there, taking his sedative and apparently behaving himself. It turns out that even tho' the police took him to hospital he was not scheduled. And he's afraid that if he does do a rehab program he will be de-registered as a clinical nurse specialist. Yes you heard me right - he drinks like a fish out of water yet covers it well enough to be a cardiac and intensive care nurse!!!

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