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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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@Angels333

The costs of mental health care were always a struggle while I was raising children. It really meant I only had minimum until last few years. It was far from ideal.

Its important you are following your creative bent. The struggle between knowing how much to budget on creative things and MH things is a juggling act, but dont neglect your creative side, as that is one of the best ways through the miasma ... of mental health struggles ...

@Owlunar

Ha ha .. other things we both have in common. I found yourng primary school kids really responded to guitar in Catechism classes. I could actually sing and play for them without inhibition as they were so innocent and gorgeous. I was about 14. Yes I would choke up with embarrassment in other singing situations ... but thank you for reminding me of that year at St Theresa's ... I had almost forgotten ... probably another reason why I have my goofy do goody side ...

@eudemonism

FOr a very long time I did not have any postive experiences and it took a lot of repeated effort to gently bring my thoughts into a more positive mindset. The best image I have is like water eroding cliffs and rocks ... it is a definite reality but almost imperceptible while it is happening ....

How to even find things that might bring me some joy ...I was very locked into a masochist self harming .... state... to get out of it ...after I had gone through a lot of my grieving .... I would try going against the grain sometimes ... to see if I liked something ... eg dance wildly on a dance floor .... or join a gym ... I had to get over a lot of self sabotage .... the gym ... became something I stuck with for 8 years as it had beneficial effects on my back and spine ....

Do more of what you want in life .... Keep a look out ... for ideas ... that might work for you ...cos lets face it ... sometimes we block ourselves .... but keep it as a self-nurturing thought ...

The MH services dont need to give you permission ... I had to get over that stuff too ... as I had an institutionalised mentality ... and often need permission ... to do ...

Take care all on this thread.

Hope you have a good day. Gotta fly.

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@Appleblossom

Thanks, it's really helpful to hear someone else's prospective, on what's happening and what to do about it ... i have more insight about, what to do now... Thank you ...

Eude

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Hey @Owlunar ,

It sounds like you had a wonderful time with the guitar and kids. Music really is a powerful tool and to be able to share it with others would be amazing. Your 3 chords give you 1 extra on Me. I can kinda play one song and that's always been my goal.

I'm glad you got through yesterday alright and the coffee you had today has managed to get you going a little bit.

I enjoy watching the computer graphic things with planets, its so amazing how far we have come with technology. Some of the space images they take now are mind blowing.

I've been watching the Moon special that has been on SBS the last few nights. Its interesting to see all of it in colour and some of the things the astranouts went through that I had no idea about. A lot of it wasn't particularly glamorous or talked about, like the guy throwing up in gemini 8.

I think it's definitely a positve to keep ourselves busy, with a library or the internet or whatever it might be. I've been finding it more of a challenge than usual lately.

Hope you have a nce afternoon and some good home cooked tucker 🙂

Gazza

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Yeah @eudemonism Its got to be what relevant for you.

I had in my head that I was not a gym type ... ra ra ra and all that positive hype ... turned me off ... but in the end it offered me health positives that made a huge difference ... I learned a lot about exercise and my body ....and I learned to relate a bit to people that I did not normally relate with.

I feel happier doing exercise while I am volunteering at the zoo and being active ... that is more type of personality ... but I would not have gotten there without the rehab exercises and specific feedback of doing different exercises that the gym machines provide. I still run into my old gym manager ... friendly like.

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Hi @Mazarita
I hope you are travelling well these days. It has been a while since I have spoken to you.
Take care 🙂
- Hamso

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@Appleblossom

Yea I'm in a moment of peril right now... my mind is racing and my thoughts are all over the place ...

Symptoms/fears whatever you want to call it ... not real pleasant to deal with ... just got to ride it out ...

Often I'm like this and often i think about reaching out; but recently I've been thinking it's pointless ...

Eude

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Part of it is reaching out @eudemonism

but the best way I got a handle on my negative thoughts and Suicidal tendencies was to HAVE GOOD things happen in my life. It took a long time for feel good thoughts to really take hold, as I would go into super fear ... that it was a hoax or I did not really deserve it ... or other self defeating things ...

HOw is dog? and your photography?

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Hey @eudemonism,

That sounds incredibly overwhelming and scary. I can hear that you are reaching out for forum support and that this is something you feel you can ride out.

I'm sorry to hear reaching out feels pointless recently. If you decide differently tonight there is:

Sane Help Centre: 1800 187 263

Lifeline: 13 11 14

Sometimes even if someone can listen or assist you to get through the next hour that can be helpful.

Take care,

Tortoiseshell

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@Former-Member

@Appleblossom

To much external input. I'm switching off for the night. Probably speak with you another time.

Eude

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Glad you've been able to save for the painting materials @Angels333, that's self care right there Back to work next week is exciting news, but can definitely understand how that would make you feel anxious. Have you got some co-workers you've been missing?

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